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Tuesday, March 31, 2009,
« on: March 31, 2009, 06:17:22 AM »
Good morning Montanan, dpe, Southpaw, Forster, MT_Sourdough, Atlaw, pab1, newstart2k, Skunk, kitchawan kid, lurker, CJ, Bilmac,thxmrgarand, Syncerus, Mcwoodduck, Brennemanj83, Old Shooter and TY22.

Cabin fever is setting in.  It's 32 degrees this morning, overcast and dreary.  I so ready for spring.  I was looking athe accuweather forcast for the first two weeks in April.  High in the 40's both weeks look plum tropical.  I'm ready.

Talked with my dad yesterday after I saw the hunting regulations came out.  He's ready to drive up from Oregon to try one of our Whitetail does.  I grew up on and raised two kids on Oregon venision, but there is nothing to compare to Montana grainfield venison Whitetail. Dad wants to come up and see if I know what I am talking about.     I sure would like to get him an ice big fat Montana Whitetail doe.

About 20 years ago, dad had a heart attack.  My brother and I were in the Cardiac care unit with him when the Dr.  came in and gave him the smoking/drinking/diet lecture.  When the Dr. told him to give up read meat, Dad said darn he just shot a Blacktail doe and had a freezer full of venision.  The Dr. said venison was fine, he could have all that kind of meat he wanted. Dr must have been right Dad's 83 now.

I hope dad gets drawn. Finger crossed.

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Re: Tuesday, March 31, 2009,
« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2009, 07:12:29 AM »
there is nothing to compare to Montana grainfield venison Whitetail.

Okay, you convinced me!  EVERYBODY MEET AT DOUBLE D'S FOR DEER SEASON!   ;D
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Re: Tuesday, March 31, 2009,
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2009, 07:46:46 AM »
I posted this in the pot belly forum, but I thought us Montanan'a would all appreciate this.
Tester, Baucus leading charge against gun control
By MATT GOURAS of the Associated Press

   

HELENA - Two Montana Democrats are leading the charge against gun control - even helping force the military to continue selling surplus brass to gun aficionados who want cheaper ammunition.

U.S. Sens. Max Baucus and Jon Tester are not simply placating gun advocates with a vague promise to vote against gun control in Congress. They are forcing former political foes to recognize that Democrats could be their strongest allies while the party controls Washington, D.C.

It's creating uncertain bedfellows on an issue that wins or loses races in places like Montana.

 
The pair have been taking the lead on issues that only the most ardent gun rights advocates were talking about. Just last week they joined Republican U.S. Rep. Denny Rehberg of Montana to pressure the Defense Department in a move that is credited with overturning a short-lived brass ban.

“The letter sent by the Montana delegation had a major impact on the reversal of that decision, and for that gun owners all over the country are grateful,” said Chris W. Cox, the NRA's chief lobbyist.

The issue had created a firestorm on the Internet forums frequented by assault rifle fans and others, but was largely unknown outside those circles. The brass is important to gun aficionados who reload their own bullets or seek to buy cheaper ammunition from companies that purchase the surplus brass.

It was also Tester and Baucus who were among the first taking shots at an Obama administration statement in favor of renewing the assault rifle ban, telling their fellow Democrats to expect strong opposition.

The strong pro-gun moves are forcing the gun rights community to recognize that the key Democrats could be their strongest allies. Tester said the gun lobby knows it can trust him and Baucus - and gun-control Democrats know not to even bring up the issue.

“We are going to be an asset to them, no doubt about it,” said Tester. “We are going to do what we think is right, based on what we think is right, not what someone else in the Senate thinks is right or what our party thinks is right.”

The controversy over the brass ban was perhaps most closely tracked at ar15.com, a forum and community for assault rifle fans. The site's founder, Edward Avila of Rochester, N.Y., says cheap ammunition for reloading is important to people such as himself who frequently practice in order to be responsible gun owners.

He said the gun debate this year, where Democrats like Tester and Baucus are being outspoken, will be a learning experience for many.

“I think that as it's viewed, that it minimizes the separation between Republicans and Democrats,” Avila said. “It's good to see that representation from the Democrats.”

The alliance is not lost on gun control advocates.

“It's not like Democrats are automatically on one side and Republicans on the other. It can cut both ways,” said Paul Helmke, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. “It is still very frustrating to us.”

Just a couple weeks ago, gun advocates who reload their own ammunition were sent into a frenzy over a Defense Department decision to stop selling surplus bullet brass. Just about as quickly as groups such as the National Rifle Association could get involved so did Tester and Baucus - and the ban was quickly lifted.

“It's about living up to what is in the Constitution. It's a good document, it's gotten us to where we're at,” said Tester. “It would be the same thing if the government came out and limited our right to assemble.”

The Defense Department indicated earlier this month that it was suspending sales of selling surplus military small arms cartridges as it reviewed its impact on national security.

The military sold an average 300,000 to 500,000 pounds a month, according to one of the biggest buyers, Georgia Arms of Villa Rica, Georgia.

Baucus has old wounds in the gun control battle. He voted for gun control back in the early 1990s - and nearly lost his Senate seat in 1996. That campaign was so bitter that the Montana Shooting Sports Association ran an advertisement comparing Baucus to Hitler.

Things are different now. The author of that advertisement, MSSA founder Gary Marbut of Missoula, personally attended a ceremony last summer where the National Rifle Association gave Baucus its election year seal of approval.

And now Marbut is at the head of the line thanking Baucus and Tester for forcing the Defense Department to keep selling brass. Gun advocates worried the ban would have sent bullet prices way up.

“I'm really glad that Baucus and Tester got onto it,” Marbut said. “It's something they could do and look good to. That does not diminish the fact we appreciate how quickly they get involved.”

Baucus doesn't spend any time dwelling about the battles of the mid-1990s. The NRA now counts him as a solid ally, and Baucus embraces it.

Baucus said the military ban on surplus brass is an example of an administrative action that can hurt gun owners and lead to other issues.

“I think it's very important for us Westerners to be eternally diligent, to not let any daylight between Montanans and the Second Amendment,” Baucus said. “We have strongly held views about the Second Amendment, more so than other states - and we represent Montana and not those other states.”
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Re: Tuesday, March 31, 2009,
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2009, 08:00:56 AM »
Good Morning Montana!

We are getting light sleet here in NE Wisconsin today. It's just plain ugly out there.

I hope your Dad gets drawn for a tag too, Double D. That would be awesome for you two to go hunting together again.

See you at Double D's house, Richard. ;D

Mt_Sourdough, good post. I'm very proud of U.S. Sens. Max Baucus and Jon Tester.
Mike

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Re: Tuesday, March 31, 2009,
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2009, 12:07:41 PM »
Lovely day here , 48 degrees as I type . warm like spring should be. We missed ALL the snow storms . went to Gt.Falls yesterday Ice roads from about 40 miles out , bare and dry on way home . I hate the crap they spray on the streets and hiways . windshield wipers just smear it around . yuck !
Went out and started the Pete , ran it up to the shop to blow out the winters accumulation of mouse turds and stuff. That darn Airedale killed all the cats ..... Any way got it blew out , sprayed with Lysol smell-um- good , and parked it. Ready for a seed run .
A bit of office work and now headed to the shop . Eye balled a new Jet Lathe and milling machine yesterday ...Tempting ,only about a $5000 deal . would have to make wigets for a while to pay for the equipment . It's the rule of the Boss aka wife.... You buy tools , you pay for them with things you make. Have a nice shop full of wood working tools that we did that with back in the 80's . Amazing how much cash one can generate when they put their mind to .  Now if I could just get the guns and bullets to make money.......... ::)

Good Neighbor Don has a chest full of milling tools from his father in laws estate . No milling machine  so I think I may ponder the mill a bit harder .  He also has lots of this FIL gunsmithing micrometers , gages , reamers , ? who knows what all .  His FIL would get started on a hobby and not spare the $ needed to equipt what ever the project it was . 
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Re: Tuesday, March 31, 2009,
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2009, 01:44:42 PM »
I have to say I'm pretty proud of Tester, Rehberg and Baucus for standing up for what most of us Montanans want.  Baucus is very powerful, but he is aware that We, the People, are the ones who keep him there.  Tester and Rehberg have both done Montana right.  This brings me to the point of anyone who is on this site and not a member of the NRA needs to join!  We have to have the voice of all we can to maintain ALL rights listed in the Constitution.  The Second Amendment would be the first of several to fall if we don't stay joined together.  JMHO.  DP
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Re: Tuesday, March 31, 2009,
« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2009, 06:55:45 PM »
  Today, the young man said he wanted to go find some elk. ;D ;D So we took off down the road.  We saw three herds including two herds I never saw before up along Lolo Creek and another on the south east side of Blue Mountain.
  We let Tyler shoot a bit as well.  The 50 cent piece sized snowflakes fogged his glasses and blurred his view of the target.  He had a 3/4 inch group at 50 yards, but once the snow started to fly his grouping disappeared.  It was cool though, because he just wanted to keep shooting.
  OH! One more thing the wolves have finally moved into town.  They have been sighted in the South Hills side of Missoula. 
  Down around Lolo, the word is that the wolves are holding the elk down low, which co-incides with my observations.  I saw the Miller Creek herd go up and then come right back down.  I thought it was a sign that we were gonna get dumped on with some serious snow fall.  Today, my girlfriend was visiting some friends in Lolo and I guess the wolves are the talk of the town.
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Re: Tuesday, March 31, 2009,
« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2009, 03:25:46 AM »
Here are some trail cam pics from a guy I know that lives up in Libby:

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A couple of days ago after seeing drath's pics of the lion I thought why in the*&^% don't I have my cams out. Then yesterday I had my crew clean our irrigation ditch and my buddy Joe (assistant super) saw a drag mark near the ditch on forest land....he went and inspected it and saw it was a lion kill. He found a young whitetail covered up by a lion and he told me about it. Later in the afternoon we went and set up one of my cams and received these photos early this morning. So this morning on Joe's 27th birthday we took his hound and set loose on the track and treed the lion...got it all on video...was a great chase...left the lion be , and on the way back to the truck saw 20 head of elk in the woods...great day for the last day of March....gotta love lion hunting!!!!