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Offline S.S.

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Uncle Sam..
« on: March 02, 2009, 12:19:34 PM »
wants your LEAD..... This is not as much of a problem in non-traditional
circles, but what is a purist to do? Has anyone here ever tried to remove
Lighter metals such as tin from molten lead? Think about tire weights and
you can see why I ask. at a certain temp. I wonder if the metals would separate?
may seem like a dumb question now but who knows what the future holds?
I have been using the same shooting range on my property
for almost 20 years so I know where a lot of lead is but digging and sifting
will be a very last resort
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Re: Uncle Sam..
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2009, 01:55:00 PM »
From what I hear at other traditional forums it takes special equipment to seperate different metals...I get my lead free from my dentist...

btw...I won't stop shooting lead, I make my own balls for both my .40 and 54...
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Re: Uncle Sam..
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2009, 04:24:11 PM »
When I worked at an aluminum plant, all types of metal came in as alloys. While tin would alloy w/ aluminum, lead wouldn't. It would hang, to a certain extent, in between the other metals, but if there was very much, it would run right on through the ingots. SO, if you can melt aluminum and wheelweights, for instance together, the aluminum alloy, whatever it happens to end up being, will solidify first while the lead won't alloy with aluminum, hopefully the tin would, and you'd have lead running out. Efficiency is the big question, but it might be fun to try with a forced draft charcoal fire.
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Re: Uncle Sam..
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2009, 02:20:39 PM »
Well, he can't have mine even if he is our uncle. Hes got to get his own.......I don't think I'm strong enought to push a pure copper ball down the bore. ;D
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Re: Uncle Sam..
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2009, 01:39:49 AM »
A copper conical will work using a plastic sabot.  It will become illegal to shoot or hunt with lead.  It's just a matter of time.
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Re: Uncle Sam..
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2009, 02:06:36 AM »
A saboted bullet won't work in my slow twist, deep cut round ball flintlocks...If they require that I stop using lead, looks like I'll break the law...
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Re: Uncle Sam..
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2009, 02:09:59 AM »
That's up to you but the fine won't be worth it, the copper bullet in a plastic sabot will work.
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Re: Uncle Sam..
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2009, 08:51:09 AM »
My .54 has a .015 deep, round bottom cut rifling that has a 1-72 twist...I'm not putting any plastic sabot and copper slug down the barrel, not happening...

Sabots are made for the shallow, button rifled factory guns with the faster twists...
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Re: Uncle Sam..
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2009, 08:56:16 AM »
That's up to you.  They will work.
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Re: Uncle Sam..
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2009, 09:22:22 AM »
I bet Randy wakeman would say they work.  He is an expert by the way. I willnever put them in my traditional guns either.
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Re: Uncle Sam..
« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2009, 02:51:21 PM »
That's up to you, but they will work & the government knows they will work.
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Re: Uncle Sam..
« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2009, 01:38:20 PM »
stock up now.
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Re: Uncle Sam..
« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2009, 05:02:42 PM »
Quote from: Swampman on March 22, 2009, 02:51:21 PM
That's up to you, but they will work & the government knows they will work.

government does not care if they will work or not.

for me, can't wait get my 54cal done and an shoot balls  ;D
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Re: Uncle Sam..
« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2009, 12:03:23 AM »
What's the point in stocking up on something they are not going to let you use?  I see people doing that at every gun show.
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Re: Uncle Sam..
« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2009, 08:15:34 AM »
Quote from: Swampman on April 02, 2009, 12:03:23 AM
What's the point in stocking up on something they are not going to let you use?  I see people doing that at every gun show.

A better question would be, What are YOU doing to stop this sort of legislative preemption of our rights, Swampman?
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Re: Uncle Sam..
« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2009, 11:07:16 AM »
I'm learning how to use what I'll have to use.  I'm not concerned about this country or it's government.....period.
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Re: Uncle Sam..
« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2009, 03:25:01 PM »
Quote from: Swampman on April 02, 2009, 11:07:16 AM
I'm learning how to use what I'll have to use.  I'm not concerned about this country or it's government.....period.

Thanx, I think...... :-\

BTW, sabot discussion isn't allowed here per: http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,102791.msg1098280539.html#msg1098280539 (thought you'd enjoy, that considering yer post elsewhere in this forum  :D )
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