What would you do?

[Sharps-Nut]

I bought a beeman 22/177 combo, the first day shooting in the wind it seemed like it had promise, blaming my misses on me failing to read the wind.  As the weather has calmed down I am finding I cant keep the gun on zero.  Groups start then seem to just dift around, also the groups are not real great at 25 yards.  I read on pyramid air they have a upgraded mount to help keep the scope on zero but if I pay out for a upgraded scope mount I will be within 20 bucks of a new rws that is scoped with the upgraded mount.  I can return the rifle, that was promised at purchase, so should I? The rws is a rws panther 199.00 to my door.   Any advice appreciated. 

[His lordship.]

I think I saw your rifle at Wallmart, and it was Chinese made, if I am correct.  I have used RWS guns in the past, not perfect, but they work, and the scope mounting system is very heavy duty. 

I once had an RWS model 34, lots of people like them, but I found that the one I owned had a wondering zero problem with the open sights.  I could not trust it as the thing would hit things to the side of what I was aiming at, too risky around a porch window, sold it.  My RWS 52 with the fixed barrel was rock solid, aimed great, but it is not cheap to buy, and it is heavy to lift.

I guess I would look at what feels the best for you.  Is there anyway you can sight the rifle without the scope to see if it is the gun?

[Sharps-Nut]

   Thanks for the reply.  Yes its a chinese made beeman.  Seemed like a good gun, but the wandering zero sucks.  I want this gun to control starlings, blacks, and sparrows.  These critters run off, compete with the bluebirds, robins, and other desirables.  I need a gun that stays put, and so far this one will shoot in but when I go for meat and miss several, then recheck the zero is off.  I can remove the scope and test it without but really want a scope in it.  Pyramid was offering a rws 34 with 4x scope and one piece mount, but you seem to have had poor luck with drift from a rws.  Maybe its back to cb caps and a 511 remington, it never failed, just did not care for the limitation of where I could take the shots safely. 

[securitysix]

I'm sure you've done this, but:  Make sure your scope is not loose.  The base should be firm on the receiver, the scope should be firmly attached to the base, and the rings should be firmly snugged down.  Nothing should be able to move without you loosening screws.  If you've done this and the zero still wanders, you have a problem, and whether it's with scope or gun, I'd take advantage of the return policy and get something else.

[mcwoodduck]

I had a similar problem with a Gamo I have.
I had to try a few different pellet designs and weights before I found one that would put round on top of round at 25 yards.
Before that on a calm day using a sand bag I could not get two to touch.
Also I killed the BSA scope it came with and added a Bushnell Air rifle scope that is made to handle the strange recoil of an air gun.

[blhof]

I currently have the same problem with my GAMO, and have tried a variety of pellets and am ready to replace the scope and mounts.  I got it used, but at a great price.  I sight it in get 5 to 6 perfect shots and then complete miss, when benched, it's 2to 3 inches off.  The best accuracy is with the heavy(expensive) pellets, so I waste alot of pellets for each short round of great shots.

[Sharps-Nut]

Well sounds like a common problem.  Taking advantage of a calm evening and the free advice I got here last night I double checked my mounts and rings.  They were fine, so I took the scope off and shot it with irons.  Like a different gun, like it was when I started out scoped, if I aimed at it and did my part it whacked it. I sighted in at 25 yards, resighted at 60 60 yards then shot at  a coke can full of water from 60 plus yards, whack first shot. Filled another fired missed, fired thought I missed fired, whack.  When  retrieved the can it was hit twice one center once on the edge. So were talking minute of coke can at 60 yards 3 out of 4 shots.  I think the gun has great potential but the scope gave up its ghost.  That said it has been fired several hundred rounds over a short period, and was a free included type of scope. Now I am in a quandary, do I return and get a rws package, or keep it and invest in mounts and a scope. 

[mcwoodduck]

The Bushnell was the best $65 I spent on the rifle.  next to getting the RWS 9.3 grain target pellets.
If mine had Iron sights when the scope crapped out and I could hit with them..... Nev er would have spent the$65 on the Bushnell air rifle scope.  It is a 3-9X40 good clear scope

[securitysix]

Well sounds like a common problem.  Taking advantage of a calm evening and the free advice I got here last night I double checked my mounts and rings.  They were fine, so I took the scope off and shot it with irons.  Like a different gun, like it was when I started out scoped, if I aimed at it and did my part it whacked it. I sighted in at 25 yards, resighted at 60 60 yards then shot at  a coke can full of water from 60 plus yards, whack first shot. Filled another fired missed, fired thought I missed fired, whack.  When  retrieved the can it was hit twice one center once on the edge. So were talking minute of coke can at 60 yards 3 out of 4 shots.  I think the gun has great potential but the scope gave up its ghost.  That said it has been fired several hundred rounds over a short period, and was a free included type of scope. Now I am in a quandary, do I return and get a rws package, or keep it and invest in mounts and a scope. 

Sounds like you're suddenly happy with the gun, but not the scope.  If you can take the mount and rings that came with the scope and use them with a different scope, I'd recommend doing just that.  If you don't have to buy another mount, you can spend the extra money you save from that on a better scope.  If you don't trust the mount and rings or if they are integral to the scope somehow, then definitely invest in another mount/ring system that allows you to keep it if you change scopes.

[lamerabbit]

Take it back and get an RWS 34 in either caliber and you will be happy!
and use domed pellets like the JSB's and Crosman Premiers.

[S.S.]

Tighten the barrel retaining screw after ever couple of dozen shots too.