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Offline grouse

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Is a 50caliber Muzzleloader better then a 45caliber?
« on: April 11, 2009, 07:49:58 AM »
I alway's remember telling people in the past to go with the 50 when asked. I have really changed my mind in general. Obviously it depends on what you want to do. But for Deer size game you cant go wrong with a 45caiber Muzzleloader at 1/30 twist.

What made me think of this was velocity today at the range. I was shooting 200grn SST'S at 2530fps at 100yds with excellant accuracy. I was also shooting the 200grn Lehigh Hollow point with excellant accuracy. The SST Won today. The Deer wouldnt know the difference. I think the main reason was because it was windy. The little better BC i bet helps in the wind.

Anyway, that bullet is realy moving. The closest i can come with a 50cal with same bullet is like 2300fps. 200fps doesnt sound like much. I bet at 200 and 300yds it's huge. maybe someone on here can tell me. I actually think the 2oogrn SST is better then the 250. Of course that's a matter of opinion. Not that much of a difference to argue one way or the other.

The down side to the 45cal muzzleloaders are, who makes them? I'm not sure that there are to many being made and if they are good. Knight Disc Elite is no longer made, the Whites are no longer made. Is CVA the only factory one left still being made? I do see Knight still makes the extreme in 45caliber. I hear people complain about T/C'S 45caliber Encore, but has someone tried it with Harvester or mmp sabots? Is the Encore tweeked already? Heck, the 50cal needs tweeked. Why wouldnt the 45cal? That's the way i see it.

I guess my inexperience with 45's kept me from reccomending them. With light bullets it makes the 50cal look anemic as far as velocity. The 45 smokes the 50. I'm sure there are alot of people that like the 175 and 195 Barnes.  How about PR Bullets 200 and 220grn 40cal bullets? Alot of options for the 45cal ML no doubt.

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Re: Is a 50caliber Muzzleloader better then a 45caliber?
« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2009, 06:43:36 PM »
For some reason .50 calibers outsell the .45s by about 20-1. 

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Re: Is a 50caliber Muzzleloader better then a 45caliber?
« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2009, 02:04:58 AM »
There doesn't seem to be near the bullet/sabot selection available for the 45's.
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Re: Is a 50caliber Muzzleloader better then a 45caliber?
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2009, 06:52:33 PM »
Right now i currently own a .45, 50, 54 and 58cal muzzys. Everyone of them does exactly what they were made for. Put meat on the table.  Each one is perfect out to 150 yards with open sights, Round ball or conical it doesnt matter.

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Re: Is a 50caliber Muzzleloader better then a 45caliber?
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2009, 04:51:07 AM »
I've alway wanted a .451 White Super 91. Something about a 460 grain .451 pure lead bullet turns me on.
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Re: Is a 50caliber Muzzleloader better then a 45caliber?
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2009, 03:22:40 PM »
I can't see any real reason to choose the .45.  In an inline I can't see any need for anything other than a .50.
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Re: Is a 50caliber Muzzleloader better then a 45caliber?
« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2009, 07:58:17 AM »
I can't see any real reason to choose the .45.  In an inline I can't see any need for anything other than a .50.

Because it is fun to try something different.  Last year I had a .45 cal Wolverine fall in my lap so I bought it for my son.  I was thinking, smaller bullet, lighter rifle, less recoil.  I was able to tune that thing up so well that it ended up being my deer rifle last season.  Shot four deer with it and had a lot of fun with it.  Plenty adequate for PA deer.  My son was not left out, he was eying up my Huntsman and used that.

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Re: Is a 50caliber Muzzleloader better then a 45caliber?
« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2009, 12:19:52 PM »
Doing it for fun is fine, but there's still no real need.  Less is not more in this case.
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