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Getting unstuck...from the mud
« on: May 30, 2009, 04:15:16 AM »
I drove to my hutning property this morning to do some hand work around stands.  I stopped the F250 short of the big field and sank to the axles in mud.  My F350 w/4x4 could not get it out, so this afternoon I am hauling the Massey Ferguson 275 in there in an attempt to not get it stuck fast too.

It has been raining 4 inches 1 inch 1 inch 3 inches 5 inches 1 inch 1 inch 1inch for almost two weeks.  I should have known it was to wet to drive.  It is certainly too wet to plow.

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Re: Getting unstuck...from the mud
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2009, 05:07:15 AM »
LAND OWNER   IN MY 73 YEARS,I HAVE OWNED 4 WH DRIVES SINCE I WAS 20 YRS OLD. ALL OF MY CHILDERN 2 BOYS {MEN NOW} AND A DAUGHTER, SON IN LAW AND GRAND KIDS ALL OWN 4 WH DR. I WOULD NOT KNOW HOW TO ENJOY ANYTHING ELSE. I STILL HAVE 2 AT MY AGE. OUT OF ALL THE YEARS WITH THEM, I HAVE FOUND," YOU ARE GONNA GET STUCK". THE BAD PART OF THIS IS "YOU JUST GET STUCK A LITTLE DEEPER IN THE WOODS OR A LITTLE FURTHER FROM THE ROAD. HOPE YOU HAVE NO PROBLEM GETTING IT OUT. MAY GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.   JIM

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Re: Getting unstuck...from the mud
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2009, 05:24:24 AM »
Just remember it's easier to stick a tractor than a 4x4 pickup. Yeah that's the voice of experience speaking. Take a long chain or cable and get no closer to the soft ground than absolutely necessary. When you bury a tractor you ain't getting it out without another tractor of equal or larger size to do it. Ask me how I know.  ;D


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Re: Getting unstuck...from the mud
« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2009, 07:22:18 AM »
Funny I should come in and first thing read this.  Just got back from pulling my neighbors kid out.  He has a Toyota 4X4 he thinks can go anywhere.  Took us 8 hours, two high lift jacks, and three hundred feet of straps, rope, and chains.  Got a 4X4 F-250 stuck twice.  I finally came back home and got my little Samurai and pulled them both out.

Kid should have turned around two miles before he got stuck.  The big truck only got to within a mile of the stuck Toyota.

With care the tractor should do it. 
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Re: Getting unstuck...from the mud
« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2009, 07:33:21 AM »
Funny I should come in and first thing read this.  Just got back from pulling my neighbors kid out.  He has a Toyota 4X4 he thinks can go anywhere.  Took us 8 hours, two high lift jacks, and three hundred feet of straps, rope, and chains.  Got a 4X4 F-250 stuck twice.  I finally came back home and got my little Samurai and pulled them both out.

Kid should have turned around two miles before he got stuck.  The big truck only got to within a mile of the stuck Toyota.

With care the tractor should do it. 


thats  what  you  need

know any one with a samuri  to  pull  you  out??

I HAVE NEVER BEEN STUCK  [but have been called a lier tho]

i  have a block and tackle i use  with  50 ft range   ans several comealongs
these same storms have caused me some problems  too
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Re: Getting unstuck...from the mud
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2009, 03:28:31 PM »
Funny I should come in and first thing read this.  Just got back from pulling my neighbors kid out.  He has a Toyota 4X4 he thinks can go anywhere.  Took us 8 hours, two high lift jacks, and three hundred feet of straps, rope, and chains.  Got a 4X4 F-250 stuck twice.  I finally came back home and got my little Samurai and pulled them both out.

Kid should have turned around two miles before he got stuck.  The big truck only got to within a mile of the stuck Toyota.

With care the tractor should do it. 
I have to ask. Are these Suzuki Samurai's true 4 wheel drive. I hear some trucks were made where all four wheels had power to them at the same time. I think old Jeeps and old Chevys had this. I could be wrong. I have also heard that todays 4x4's only one back and the opisite front wheel pull at the same time. I really don't know how all this works even though I have owned 5 different 4 wheel drives. If someone could clear all this up that would be great. Thanks Dale
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Re: Getting unstuck...from the mud
« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2009, 04:15:46 PM »
all factory chevy's will pull with pass. rear and the drivers rear will pull after about 1/2 a revolution. the drivers front will pull in forward and the pass. front in reverse. you can put in lockers and have a ''true" 4x4.

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Re: Getting unstuck...from the mud
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2009, 04:34:42 PM »
i  dont know  dale  i never got stuck in mine

but  all 4 spin  if  i dump the clutch.....whip lash

i  noticed  those rock crawlers  on  TV  are suzuki drive trains  i think
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Re: Getting unstuck...from the mud
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2009, 01:23:10 PM »
Standard Diffs will pull on both wheels till one slips, then all power goes to that wheel, be it front or rear.  So if one front wheel and one rear wheel spins you are stuck.  Now if your vehicle has limited slip, once the loose wheel turns approx. 1/2 turn the diff is supposed to lock up and both rear wheels pull together.  Most 4X4s come with limited slip on the rear axle only. 

Now you can add lockers, and most serious 4-wheelers do, that can be either locked by limited slip, by air, or just locked and left that way.

My Brown 88 Samurai has locked lockers.  When driving on pavement, when I turn one wheel on each axle has to slip.  When I go around a traffic circle the tires squeal and everyone looks.

My Black 86 Sammy has limited slip diffs front and rear.  And yes they both locked up when I was pulling out those vehicles.  In fact I changed my rear wheels before I went out there.  I changed out the 31X10.50X15s to 31X15.50X15 Wrangler XTs.  These tires have a heavy tractor type cleat with massive traction in soft stuff.   At one point it felt like the front tires were off the ground when I was pulling hard, but no one was there to verify it.  Everyone was back at the Toyota trying to help by pushing.

The little Sammy only weighs 1900 lbs from the factory.  Now I Swapped out the springs for heavier ones, adding some weight.  Then I swapped out the spring shackles for longer ones, again adding a little weight.  I also added bigger tires 31X10.50X15 from the stock 205-70-15.  So it is probably just a little over 2000 lbs.  Still awful light for what I was doing.  But with an 80% gear reduction in low range NO PROBLEM.
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Re: Getting unstuck...from the mud
« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2009, 11:29:23 AM »
As a kid growing up in the Northern Nebraska Sandhills there are some places you just dont drive and some you certinly dont slow down to cross as we had a 2900 acre ranch bisected by section lines we had road hunters getting stuck (cannot lock gates to a public access road) they would wander off the section line track into soft ground and get stuck down to the axels, there were two that stood out in particular one on our place A spring season turkey hunter had a F350 extended cab job and put it right in a very soft/wet spot next to our hay meddow and walked into our place looking for a pull out, we jumped in the truck and drove out with all the tow chain we could get and there wasent even any firm ground we could hitch up to without getting stuck ourselves, we ended up going home and getting a 460 Farmall tractor with a stack winch mounted (we stack hay not bail) we stripped off the over 100 foot of
7/8"staker cable and all the heavy gage tow chain we could find and borrow =  36 foot, all we did was break our staker cable trying to drag out the stuck turkey hunter, we were lucky to flag down a county road grader passing by our home to see if he could come out and eventually did drag out the truck after rounding up over 200 foot of county tow cable in addittion to our chain's (36foot) we managed to get him out, he did seem gratefull to be out and we were thanked and he left,  The ground was so soft that Hi-Lift/Handyman jacks would sink even wood under the jacks, we never did get that cable fixed till that fall when we needed to winch haystacks.

If you see a meddow of hay stacks thers a reason, they stack hay instead of big round bailing, they build haystacks on the highground useing light weight small  sweep tractors to bring the hay up on firm ground the less driveing on soft ground  with lite equipment the better chances of not weakinging the sod and cutting through.

The other getting stuck story was some fall time Deer hunter's (relative& friends to the owners) on a Large Corporation Farm's pasture parcil up the road, the fellas wanderd right into another Swale/ buffalo wallow not watching where ther going (Ya know that swale grass and tussocks are a dead give away to water saturated ground) they spun the tires till they cut through the sod then on down till it was sitting on the axels, the Farm sent out a couple ther hired hands to pull out the hunters and in the process getting stuck a Stiger Panther tractor (very large articulated dual wheeled tillage tractor) after trying to attach 240 foot of cable and chain to that vehicle, the farm eventually had to hire the services of a Construction Company's D8 Cat to come out and extract that Stiger and the 4x4 ford Bronco.

If you are unfamiluer with the place to hunt, have the land owner show where its safe to drive and places to avoid. It saves cutting up nice smoothe pastures and meddows.

The sand hills country is coverd with sod break through that sod cover and you might as well shut off the truck and get help before you make it a worse problem, having all the traction in the world isant going to help in soft bottomless ground, the key is light vehicles and flotation, we used radial tries with a decent mud & rain tread and ran them slightly under inflated for a larger footprint, we didnt power our way across swampy ground, we backed up and took calculated runs at it useing speed and momentum to carry us across the narrowest points or the least swampy parts because if we spun the tires cutting the sod/root mass it was all over.

Driveing on established truck tracks/trails is best the land owners learned from experence long ago where the firm ground is.............. why reinvent the wheel?

Springtime fence mending we used horses, we had set fence posts in ground so saturated with water if you doug down 6" ther'd be water running in the post hole on a side hill! never assume just because yer on a high ground or a hill yer on safe firm ground.

Clay country they have different methods for getting round and in the end getting stuck cuts up the ground makeing rutts something most ranchers and farmers I know just love to see.