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Former Top Rated NRA Senator to Introduce Gun Ban This Week

Kurt Nimmo
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May 11, 2009

Senator Kirsten Gillibrand, Democrat and member of the so-called Blue Dog Coalition, plans to introduce an assault weapons ban this week. Gillibrand, the junior senator from New York, was at one time highly rated by the NRA for her advocacy of the Second Amendment.   
    
Newsday claims Gillibrand has “undergone a transformation” over the last three months and has moved away from “her House record that won the NRA’s top rating while remaining a supporter of Second Amendment rights to gun ownership.” Since her Senate appointment, she has “passed just about every test on guns set by Rep. Carolyn McCarthy,” who reintroduced a bill closing the so-called gun-show loophole at a news conference last week.

It appears likely Ms. Gillibrand was a gun-grabber all along and used the Second Amendment as an election ploy. Polls indicate a large percentage of voters strongly support the Second Amendment.

McCarthy’s bill, H.R. 6676, would utilize the National Instant Criminal Background Check System for background checks on all gun store employees and dealers. In addition to H.R. 6676, three other bills have been offered including laws that would make it illegal for known or suspected terrorists to buy guns.

As reported by Infowars last week, the House is currently working on H.R. 2159, The Denying Firearms and Explosives to Dangerous Terrorists Act of 2009, sponsored by Rep. Peter King of New York. The bill would “increase public safety by permitting the Attorney General to deny the transfer of a firearm or the issuance of firearms or explosives licenses to a known or suspected dangerous terrorist.”

Larry Pratt, executive director of Gun Owners of America, told WorldNetDaily the bill will likely be used in junction with the DHS “Rightwing Extremism” report that characterizes advocates of the Second Amendment and others as terrorists. “By those standards, I’m one of [DHS Secretary] Janet Napolitano’s terrorists,” Pratt said. “This bill would enable the attorney general to put all of the people who voted against Obama on no-gun lists, because according to the DHS, they’re all potential terrorists.”

Senator Gillibrand is working closely with gun-grabbing organizations, including New Yorkers Against Gun Violence and the Brady Campaign, according to Matt Canter, Gillibrand’s spokesman. New York City Police Commissioner Ray Kelly and others are working with Gillibrand on “anti-trafficking legislation to stop the flow of illegal guns,” Canter told Newsday.

The Obama administration recently attempted to link the right to own firearms to drug cartel violence in Mexico. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and other administration officials have said 90 percent of the weapons used to commit crimes in Mexico come from the United States. In fact, only 17 percent of guns found at Mexican crime scenes have been traced to the U.S. Statistics reveal that most of the guns flowing into Mexico come from the black market, Russian crime organizations, South America, Asia, Guatemala, and the Mexican Army.

Soon after his shoo-in confirmation, Attorney General Eric Holder revived the assault weapons ban debate. Responding to a reporter’s question on weapons’ regulations, Holder said, “Well, as President Obama indicated during the campaign, there are just a few gun-related changes that we would like to make, and among them would be to reinstitute the ban on the sale of assault weapons. I think that will have a positive impact in Mexico, at a minimum.” Holder did not provide details on when legislation would be presented to Congress.

Democrats are reluctant to make additional attacks against the Second Amendment. In 1994, the issue was instrumental in handing over control of Congress to the Republicans. Earlier this year, the Democratic-led Senate dealt a body blow to the gun control movement, when 22 Senate Democrats, led by Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., joined 40 Republicans to shelve firearms restrictions in the nation’s capital.

Democrats fearful of backlash have told the Obama administration they would “actively oppose” any renewal of the assault weapons ban. Democrat senators Jon Tester and Max Baucus warned they would “strongly oppose any legislation that will infringe upon the rights of individual gun owners.”

Democrats, however, are biding their time. Veteran gun-grabber Sen. Dianne Feinstein, a California Democrat, author of the 1994 assault weapons ban, told CBS’ “60 Minutes” on April 12 that she has no intention of reintroducing the assault weapons ban at this time. “I’ll pick the time and the place, no question about it,” she said, that is to say when the opportunistic introduction of such legislation is politically expedient and will not damage her party.

Government propaganda and exploitation of recent high profile “gun violence” stories by the corporate media have not turned the public against the Second Amendment. “Recent polls show shrinking support for new gun control measures and strong public sentiment for enforcing existing laws instead. So strong is the shift in public opinion that a proposed assault-weapons ban — once backed by three in four Americans — now rates barely one in two,” reports the Houston Chronicle.

An April poll by NBC News and the Wall Street Journal found that support for curbing the sale of assault weapons and semiautomatic rifles has dropped from 75 percent in 1991 to 53 percent today.
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Re: Former Top Rated NRA Senator to Introduce Gun Ban This Week
« Reply #1 on: May 11, 2009, 10:00:27 AM »
da record will show I predicted this the same day I heard she was appointed. Lots of New Yorkers on here argued it would not happen. She never was pro gun and to be completely honest neither is the NRA.


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Re: Former Top Rated NRA Senator to Introduce Gun Ban This Week
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2009, 12:44:50 PM »
Well arn't we all surprised ::)

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Re: Former Top Rated NRA Senator to Introduce Gun Ban This Week
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2009, 02:05:37 AM »
Wow!  Yeah!  Hell of a turncoat, huh?  Denying firearms and explosives to dangerous terrorists - man, that really crimps my 2nd Amendment style.  And oh yeah - making sure gun store employees and dealers pass a NICS check - oh man, that is soooo restrictive to think of someone workin' in a gunshop to have to pass a background check.  Oh man, what should I think - that someone who deals in deadly weapons has to pass muster - not like people who work in hospitals or nursing homes, or who provide home health care or work in mental hospitals, or cops who have to pass a background check.   I'm sorry, did anyone hear the cynicism in my voice???

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Re: Former Top Rated NRA Senator to Introduce Gun Ban This Week
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2009, 03:14:39 AM »
Dunno why you are so blind to this gal Mikey or why you continue to defend her. She clearly is not our friend. Pay attention to the full details not how the media portrays them.


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Re: Former Top Rated NRA Senator to Introduce Gun Ban This Week
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2009, 03:18:47 AM »
Now I know why I haven't recived a reply from my e-mail,o well lets see how the next elections go
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« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2009, 07:53:26 AM »
Violates the 5th Amendment by only requiring that they be suspected as a cause to deny their liberties guaranteed by the 2nd Amendment.  Smacks of McCarthyism and is ripe for exploitation to purely political ends.  You don't agree with us so we put you on the list of suspected terrorists and ca thereby deny you your guaranteed rights without the due process of law.  All hidden under the guise of keeping weapons out of the hands of terrorists.  Such a crock.

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Re: Former Top Rated NRA Senator to Introduce Gun Ban This Week
« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2009, 09:29:29 AM »
Mikey, who is a terrorist? Seems they think the returned veterans are. Maybe they will fit me and you into that group.

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Re: Former Top Rated NRA Senator to Introduce Gun Ban This Week
« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2009, 11:31:52 AM »
Iam one of those vets they should be afraid of,we vote.
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Re: Former Top Rated NRA Senator to Introduce Gun Ban This Week
« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2009, 11:47:35 PM »
kitchawan and Briarpatch - you are both right.  Helotaxi - yep, but mccarthyism of a different era - now!

Bill - I deeply regret that you may be right.  I will wait and see though. 

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« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2009, 08:23:01 AM »
 I recall distinctly the day this sleaze bag was appointed, and some started to sigh with a bit of relief .....GB warned us !

   Just goes to show how self-serving most politicians are. They don't really seem to have any beliefs or scruples..other than self agrandizment...
   She's simply been a filthy liar for many years...
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« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2009, 04:25:19 PM »
OK Mikey, I'll join you for some Gillibrand support. I will admit to being disappointed in some of her latest actions, but I have to wonder - is it within the realm of possibility that she is simply being smart and choosing her battles? I hope so. Perhaps it is smart of her to go along with the "other" democrats on a few things so she can get reelected next time. Otherwise, she will be unlikely to withstand a challenge from McCarthy. I think this is a more likely scenario, because it seems unlikely that she would simply "change her mind" on gun issues. Kinda like Schumer turning pro-gun - just wouldn't happen.

I still think she is on our side but is playing to her party to help her get re-elected. In the long run I think she could do us well.
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Re: Former Top Rated NRA Senator to Introduce Gun Ban This Week
« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2009, 03:21:22 PM »
Aaah yes, those darn "rightwing extremists", they must all be terrorists.

If Gillibrand is working with groups like the Brady campaign, and NewYorkers against gun violence. You can bet that this bill, if passed will be used as one of the drops to fill thier bucket.
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Re: Former Top Rated NRA Senator to Introduce Gun Ban This Week
« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2009, 02:01:55 AM »
I find it interesting that even though politicos like shumer have said that she would see things differently and 'come around', he professes support for her opponent, who is the author of most of these atrocious anti-gun proposals, so I sort of wonder if she has really 'come around' or not.

A politician, whether appointed or elected, is usually held to meeting with constituent groups from their areas whether they support their causes or not.  They don't have to like the group or its focus but if you are their representative or senator and they want to meet with you then you had best just settle for it and hear what they say.  Let's not forget that it was shumer who put The Mother's against Gun Violence right in Gillibrand's face.  If this group, or the brady bunch want to get in her face and have the world question her position or credibility all they have to do is schedule a press conference or meeting with her and let the media do the rest - that is, spread it around that she is meeting with them which would have the same affect as her turning coat.

Let's face it - if she had already turned there would be a lot more in the press about it, not just a re-hash of old bs.  And, since scummer hasn't crowed about anything lately I sort of doubt she has 'turned', as you say she has. 

Who knows, maybe she will turn but I think she places her family values above the pure political bs of nyc politics and the heart-string knee-jerk emotional response approach of nyc proposed gun legislation.  Needless to say that I have not yet seen or read of one piece of proposed legislation that has her name on it. 

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« Reply #14 on: May 24, 2009, 12:20:46 PM »
Its all about lawyers ,lately i have noticed these scum bags suing people for everything under the sun.
Obama has found out his buddy's will do his will to unravel this country in a  quagmire of legal cost.
Look at who he is going to appoint to SCOTUS , a branch of government who also has shown their true colors by not hearing the cases involving Obamas citizenship.

This credit card restructuring bill is not at all what was needed to help Americans fend off the collection agents who are preying on them for every dime they have left, because of an economic situation that was not the card holders fault.

Obamas newest plague on America , The march of the Attorneys.
Possibly the worse yet ,these insects devour everything in their path.
They turn us all in on each other ,and if you look an Erie silence is now descending upon middle America as she fades into the night.

Collection agents are smart ,i saw a couple lose their guns as one piece of any asset they had left to grab.
They went for these first , with a court order allowing them to do so.
The FBI announced last week that they are investigating bankruptcy fraud.
Pay attention to this guys ,it is a back door attempt to disarm a lot of what is left of those who would defend this country's freedom.

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Re: Former Top Rated NRA Senator to Introduce Gun Ban This Week
« Reply #15 on: May 25, 2009, 07:07:54 AM »
  Many folks are catching onto the fact that the political "parties"..have been partying far too long now..at the public's expense.
  Fox poll shows;
    Democrats.......33%
    Republicans.....22&
    Independents..39%

          Glad to see it..shows what the tea parties were all about! I would like to believe that the larger portion of the independents are
  the (far right) folks that believe in traditional values and the Constitution. Why do I believe this? Simply because the far left have a home in with the Democrats..while nthe national "country club" Republicans have driven the far right away from their party.
     If the RNC is not careful, they will lose the next election. If they keep trying to "out-Democrat" the Democrats, I sure won't vote for them, because at that point it makes no difference if the ones elected are Democrats or psuedo-Democrats.

  I will vote for any REAL American though !
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« Reply #16 on: May 25, 2009, 10:15:00 AM »
It burns me to see that all of us who these last months are calling for the Right to get its act together are the true voices of the right ,and not the RNC.
Yet after the right finally moved to get some back bone, here comes the same faces who we saw cause the right to be in such bad shape trying to steal your glory.

You guys took the risk and set up the tea party's from forums like this one all the way back to the election in your protest of that election.
As time went on you could see you were placing yourselves in a very risky position,that several times was not a safe place to be in.

Newt had his chance in the 90s and blew it.
Romney is another one who we needed to get rid of.
Why would we want these guys to even be close to anything resembling our party ?

Palin is the one the left fears ,and the one who would clean that entire mess up.
She and a lot of new faces are once again being tossed under the bus after we set the stage.
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« Reply #17 on: May 25, 2009, 01:42:39 PM »
Phalanx;
  The continued ridicule and bashing just goes to show that Gov Palin is the one the radical lefty fears most. They know there is still a sizeable body of voters out here that believe in God, the Constitution and family values.
   If they didn't fear her and really thought she was washed up...they would simply ignore her. She has so much more class than they of the left, that they hate & fear her.
    There are many reasons the radical left hates her..Christian, decent, beautiful (radical left doesn't have many of those ;D), down-to-earth, competent without being an "elitist", and has a son in a Stryker brigade (no fobbit) with the 25th Div, deployed Iraq sept 2008, hard-working, snow racing Champion who works at one of the "deadliest catch" jobs.. for husband.
  Not only a remarkable woman but a remarkable family..sure a fly or two in the ointment..what family doesn't ?

   ...A reminder on just who Sarah Palin is;

  http://www.conservapedia.com/Sarah_Palin
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« Reply #18 on: May 27, 2009, 10:43:36 AM »
She lives by the old politician creed: Take the money and run.

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« Reply #19 on: May 28, 2009, 01:13:51 AM »
  Haven't seen that Bob..but I have seen her do a lot for Alaska. Compare the economic shape Alaska is in to..NY, CA, IL, NJ or ANY other "blue" state !
    I know what my family members in Alaska think of her and you have heard from Alaskans here on GBO, such as Sourdough.
   She has done a far better job than the Governors of NJ (queer & crook), NY (last one quit in disgrace , new one maybe 19% approval) IL ( how many past IL politicians in jail now?) and CA (where Ahh-nold, is about to b e "terminated" :D)
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