I like the Hubbard rod very much, but I only use it for hunting. I use a TC range rod for general use. Here are some photos from a while back, with limited detail. The Hubbard rod (collapsed) is a little longer than the stock rod (which broke on me). It sticks out to the end of the barrel, so a longer bullet seater would stick out even fruther. The bullet seater I use (I forgot the maker) rotates as it goes down the barrel, a nice feature I think if that could be added as well Nick.