.250 Savage Load Data w/Hybrid???

[Blowtorch53]

Hey Guys,

Just got a new .250 Savage and I picked up a pound of the Hodgdon Hybrid for my .257 Bob.  Anyone loading the .250 Savage with the Hybrid?  Don't see it in anyone's data but I surely can ad-lib for it.  What are your favorite loads with other powders?

Thanks,

BT

[bobg]

  Don't have a clue what bullet weight you are useing. My 250 was a varmint rifle only. The load i used was 40 gr. H380 over a 75gr. Hornady hp. Federal 215 primers. Sure did kill a lot of woodchucks with that load   
               bobg

[Blowtorch53]

Bob G.,

Thanks for the reply.  I want to use 100 and 115 gr. Partitions for the .250.  I made up a chart comparing the min. & max. loads for the .250 and the .257 Roberts.  I was surpised to find out how close the Savage is in ballistics in most areas.  It must be an efficient cartridge.  I used current Hodgdon data for this.  Hybrid 100V seems to be the rage on the reloading forums.  When I see the ballistics of the Bob with this powder, I guess I can see why.  What is see from my chart is that the max. loads for the .250 Savage are about 10% less with the 100 gr. bullets and about 15% less with the 115 gr. slugs.  This is using like powders and not Hybrid which is not listed in the reloading data for the .250.  So...if I used the max. Hybrid 100V load for the Roberts and reduced it these amounts with the repective bullet weights for the Savage, would I be safe?  Can anyone tell me?

Thanks,

BT

[Blowtorch53]

P.S.  These loads will be used in a Savage Model 14 bolt action, not in a 99.

BT

[303Guy]

It looks as though Hybrid will not generate enough pressure to burn well in the 250 Savage.  That means simply the case is too small for it.  I get the impression that when powders are not listed it is because they do not work well.  However, I have been told that H4350 works in 30-30's that otherwise don't shoot well but at low velocity (1900fps with 170gr bullets).  So maybe 'doesn't shoot well' also means doesn't attain high enough velocity?  There is only one way to find out.   (It looks like the starting load would be compressed!  Which in itself makes it unsuitable as one would not be able to 'work up loads').  Just a my thoughts.

[saltydog]

There are several loads listed by Hogdon for the 257 Roberts and Hybrid 100 V - fast fps and reasonable pressures. All but the lightest bullets have listing which makes sense given the relative slow burning rate. Most loads are between 42 and 49 grains (which appears to be the max for the Bob). 

[Blowtorch53]

Guys,

Thanks for the help and I will heed your advice.  I have plenty of other calibers to burn the Hybrid in including a Bob.  I just haven't been able to get it to shoot yet.  New glass may help.  I did find a load that really makes my little Savage sing.  It's listed in an article in "Handloader's Digest #18"  which was published in 2003 I believe.  It uses Reloader 15 and it will put every shot from my Savage 14 bolt action in a 1" hole at 100 yards at almost 3000 FPS using Nosler 100 Gr. Partitions.  This should be a great deer load.  I won't quote it because it may be over max., but after working up to it, it works fine in my rifle.  The primers are a little flat but not greatly so.  No more than some of the other stuff I shoot.  Bolt lift is fine and cases don't stretch at all.  By the way, my barrel is 22".  I would not use this in my vintage Model 99 nor recommend anyone try it in their lever gun.  My cases stretch like crazy even with non-max. loads in the 99.  I chronographed the loads last Friday and it was almost exactly as the author predicted.  The velocity falls of quite a bit when you use a lesser amount with a 115 Gr. bullet.  My next task is to work up a 115 Gr. Partition load.

Good Shooting,

BT