Author Topic: Interesting trend in conservative talk radio. Have you observed this? (Read 1389 times)

Questor · « **on:** May 22, 2009, 04:29:56 AM »

I had a couple of days off this week and was driving on Wednesday. It's rare that I get to listen to Rush Limbaugh but was able to on that day.

He was listing a lot of complaints he has about the Republican leadership and how they are so lame an ineffective today. He has done this a number of times recently. So have other conservative talk show people.

Even Newt Gingrich has had a lot of negative things to say about the Republican party lately.

Have you noticed this?

Of course, they are right, and it is obvious to everyone. What is the matter with the republicans? Have they switched their constituency because so many people are on the dole now that it no longer makes sense to preach limited government, individual rights, and lower taxes?

magooch · « **Reply #1 on:** May 22, 2009, 04:53:49 AM »

Rush is right. I don't know about the so-called leadership, but too many Republican politicians are squishy on one issue, or another. But I guess that's the nature of politics. I consider myself to be quite a bit to the right of even Rush Limbaugh, but even for me, things like abortion aren't high on my list.

skarke · « **Reply #2 on:** May 22, 2009, 05:22:32 AM »

It is the fact that very few "conservatives" are just that, conservative in the Reagan/Goldwater way. A few points off of my pointy head:

1. Republican leadership has abandoned fiscal responsibility in favor of buying votes with the peoples' money EXACTLY like democrats. It is merely a matter of whose vote they are buying, not whether they are buying them
2. Social conservatism hasn't ever been, nor is now a losing issue. It is portrayed that way by the press, but quite the contrary, issues like pro life, while not necessarily a lead item on the platform, DO NOT cost republicans votes. The pro life position, in fact, according to the latest Pew Research polling, is now the majority position. My point is that no one should shy away from sincerely held beliefs on either side. What scares people off is double speech.
3. Strong military defense wins votes, period.
4. Limited government is a no brainer, no nonsense issue. If we can't have a discussion about this with our 5 year olds that even they can understand, then we all need to do some soul searching.

Bottom line, if we had ONE conservative leader as articulate as Daniel Hannan of Great Britan, we'd win huge. Reagan policies are still winning policies.

mauser98us · « **Reply #3 on:** May 22, 2009, 12:23:04 PM »

God Bless Ronald Reagan, I'm glad I lived thru his tenure.I also lived thru that dastardly Jimmy Carter. Looks like we may have another Carter clone except worse

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #4 on:** May 22, 2009, 12:27:24 PM »

their new game plan seems to be - IF YA CAN'T BEAT UM JOIN UM !

slim rem 7 · « **Reply #5 on:** May 22, 2009, 05:05:10 PM »

i hate to say it but what im seeing so far from our president is quite contrary to even what his liberal backers want.. i m wondering if the man fooled everyone an really is, an closet muslim..
if not my other great concern is the possibility that liberals decide hes not effectively pushing thier agenda, an cause something to happen to him .. which of course is used to inflame blacks an many other americans against gun ownership..i even hesitate to mention this..
its just a pretty good tactic in thier war to have gun ownership abolished.. boy i hope im wrong on these things.. slim

gypsyman · « **Reply #6 on:** May 22, 2009, 05:44:47 PM »

It seems the Republicans are trying to swing the moderate vote. Try and make themselves look more politically correct. Fact is, there are alot more conservative's than they realize. They're worried about picking up the minority vote. What they ought to realize is, so many of them can't vote,(legally that is,don't count out Acorn). Just look at what happened in California just a couple days ago. Again they voted conservative, cut state spending, no gay marriage bs. You'll probably see the gay marriage thing go back to their state supreme court. Wouldn't surprise me if you see a revolt in that state.
These talk radio guys are just responding to what they see and hear. Just hope their message

gypsyman · « **Reply #7 on:** May 22, 2009, 05:46:15 PM »

(oops) lets finish this- Lets hope their message gets through. gypsyman

nw_hunter · « **Reply #8 on:** May 22, 2009, 06:17:59 PM »

Quote from: Questor on May 22, 2009, 04:29:56 AM

I had a couple of days off this week and was driving on Wednesday. It's rare that I get to listen to Rush Limbaugh but was able to on that day.

He was listing a lot of complaints he has about the Republican leadership and how they are so lame an ineffective today. He has done this a number of times recently. So have other conservative talk show people.

Even Newt Gingrich has had a lot of negative things to say about the Republican party lately.

Have you noticed this?

Of course, they are right, and it is obvious to everyone. What is the matter with the republicans? Have they switched their constituency because so many people are on the dole now that it no longer makes sense to preach limited government, individual rights, and lower taxes?

There are only a handful of Goldwater, Reagan Conservative Republicans left at the National level.
Goldwater would be considered a Libertarian today.He would be ignored by the media just like Ron Paul, and made the butt of their jokes.

There is no true conservative party left! That should have been obvious to everyone with the last 8 years under the Bush regime. Bigger Government, The homeland security, open borders,. The jobs and the economy didn't just start going down the tubes with the latest criminal in Chief at the helm.

He may be the one to end it all, but he damn sure didn't start it.

Unless we start electing someone outside the two parties, we will continue to sink, and I don't see that happening!
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The will of the people is the only legitimate foundation of any government, and to protect its free expression should be our first object.

Thomas Jefferson

Oldshooter · « **Reply #9 on:** May 23, 2009, 02:18:26 AM »

The repubniks are are cowering beneath their rocks. They dont wanna get steam rolled by the obama love fest right now! We call it "giving him enough rope" down here!

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #10 on:** May 23, 2009, 02:26:32 AM »

There is little direction in what he is doing other than change . Change for the sake of change not for the wealfare of the country . It seems like a kid at Christmas so many new toys he just runs from one to another not getting the benifit or meaning of any . The rep's can't catch up with his direction or motive . Talk Radio is trying to get them to make a stand . They are more worried about elections than running and protecting the country
WHAT A MELL OF A HESS WE ARE IN !

Yankee1 · « **Reply #11 on:** May 23, 2009, 04:53:23 PM »

Hello All
I wrote the Republican Party and informed them that I will not contribute one thin dime to anyone that is not following the constitution. I further informed them that after all you are sworn to do so. I stressed the importance of the constitution to me. Why should we support people that tell us one thing and do another? Thats Like paying people to defeat our goals.
Yankee1

alsaqr · « **Reply #12 on:** May 24, 2009, 02:43:23 AM »

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There is no true conservative party left! That should have been obvious to everyone with the last 8 years under the Bush regime. Bigger Government, The homeland security, open borders,. The jobs and the economy didn't just start going down the tubes with the latest criminal in Chief at the helm.

He may be the one to end it all, but he damn sure didn't start it.

Unless we start electing someone outside the two parties, we will continue to sink, and I don't see that happening!

Excellent post.

The Democrat party and the Republican party are as alike as too stinking poop sandwiches on moldy rye bread. Want to see a change in the Republican party. Just elect 5-10 Independents to the US congress.

Mohawk · « **Reply #13 on:** May 24, 2009, 03:00:20 AM »

US Senator John Cornyn from Texas is wholesome guy. We need him in the White House. Not everybody will necessarily agree with his policies or votes but those who hunt, fish, or just shoot will have a friend.

Swampman · « **Reply #14 on:** May 24, 2009, 03:07:34 AM »

A conservative republican cannot get elected. It's ok to be one, but it doesn't really matter if you can't get into office. We are a very tiny minority and so we have to take what the liberals vote in.

magooch · « **Reply #15 on:** May 24, 2009, 03:57:58 AM »

Well then, I guess we're screwed. I think there are several good spokesmen, or should I say spokes women for the conservative cause. At the top of my list right now is Liz Cheney. She's probably too young to run for President, but she would make a great candidate for Congress and maybe later, move on to bigger things. The only problem is that I think the time thing is against us. The Obamanation is making sure that his version of change is inevitable.

It looks like 2012 is going to be about all she wrote.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #16 on:** May 26, 2009, 10:53:28 AM »

well we might be screwed , or maybe the next attack or people being out of work will change peoples thinking . Its nice to give to the poor , its nice to be cared for . But when you are on the dole and can't do what you want , you have to follow rules to get enough to get by things start to look different and thinking changes .

blind ear · « **Reply #17 on:** May 26, 2009, 12:31:04 PM »

Legacy of the George W Bush Republican era: It put the country in the attitude to elect Obama?

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #18 on:** May 26, 2009, 12:35:04 PM »

We have a country of people who have never experinced a major war or depression both real mind changers !

Oldshooter · « **Reply #19 on:** May 27, 2009, 05:18:21 AM »

Quote from: eddiegjr on May 26, 2009, 12:31:04 PM

Legacy of the George W Bush Republican era: It put the country in the attitude to elect Obama?

Thats a load of crap! Actually the folk that voted for obama would have voted for him no matter what "W" did!
At least half of the people in this country are to stupid to vote! When a shister used car salesman comes along and preaches he is gonna make everything right and take the mnoney from the wealthy and give em some they will vote for him!

Swampman · « **Reply #20 on:** May 27, 2009, 11:20:02 AM »

Quote from: eddiegjr on May 26, 2009, 12:31:04 PM

Legacy of the George W Bush Republican era: It put the country in the attitude to elect Obama?

I would have voted for President Bush if he could have run again. I like him.

streak · « **Reply #21 on:** May 27, 2009, 12:21:24 PM »

SHOOTALL,
You are right! Those are mind changer`s. Folks better start taking a good long look at what this Obama
adminstration is doing! Now they are actually making policies that essentially will be taking more of our freedom from us. Examples like they are trying to dictate what type of cars we will be driving,trying to set salary caps on private business, healthcare choices will be nightmare!
Anyway some need to wakeup and smell the "ROSES"!

Heavy C · « **Reply #22 on:** May 27, 2009, 12:35:09 PM »

Republicans are lost. They are scared to be too conservative or too liberal. They need to take a stand. Those candidates that put themselves out there are true conservatives being fiscally responsible and defenders of the constituation will come out ahead. There is a growing resentment to what is happening to our country. I would go as far as saying that even the big business leaders that supported Obama initially are now recognizing that they screwed up. I have some friends that switched from the Republican party to Democrat because of Obama. Now they say, 'we didn't bargain for this!' I just shake my head because it was obvious where he was going if you paid attention.

I received a call from a Republican PAC the other day and I told them to get lost. I let them know in no uncertain terms that they were lost and when their best offer is McCain for President I could not support that.

nw_hunter · « **Reply #23 on:** May 27, 2009, 02:14:46 PM »

Quote from: Oldshooter on May 27, 2009, 05:18:21 AM

Quote from: eddiegjr on May 26, 2009, 12:31:04 PM
Legacy of the George W Bush Republican era: It put the country in the attitude to elect Obama?

Thats a load of crap! Actually the folk that voted for obama would have voted for him no matter what "W" did!
At least half of the people in this country are to stupid to vote! When a shister used car salesman comes along and preaches he is gonna make everything right and take the mnoney from the wealthy and give em some they will vote for him!

Not a bunch of crap! My neighbor voted for Obammy, and he had always voted Republican. I asked him why, and he said because of the mess the last eight years had produced under GW.

Bush did more to finish the Republican party, than any before him.

Heather · « **Reply #24 on:** May 27, 2009, 02:16:27 PM »

Republican no longer means Conservative!!!

Heather

Swampman · « **Reply #25 on:** May 27, 2009, 04:31:27 PM »

A conservative cannot get elected. If you can't get elected, you don't matter.

blind ear · « **Reply #26 on:** May 28, 2009, 12:16:53 AM »

The Republican Party presents its' self as the anti socialism pro capitalist party. In that stance they deregulated banks and reduced cafe standards which allowed the banks that are "too big to fail" to emerge and stop the requirement for better fuel milage standards, two things that have gotten U.S. into the economy that exsists, both happened under the Regan administration. The conservative Supreme Court of the Republicans also allowed Emminent Domain ruleings for takeing private land for public use. How Mississippi was able to build the Nissan plant and get picked by Toyota for thier new plant. Our govenor Barber stated so.

Corporations have been given the rights of private citizens without the same required responsibilities, one is haveing an identifiable face. Private corporations don't have to reveal whom thier owners are. This allows those entities to create large power blocks that paycheck Joe can't identify. That structure allows the people behind the curtain to operate thier power block without being identified. All Corporations, public and private,must have clarity, ownership exposure, to see whom is makeing the laws the true "citizens" of this country operate under. Who makes the laws that promote the streagnth of the corporations at whose expense?

Is protecting the paycheck earner socialism? communism? or is it what this country began as, the rights of the individual. It seams a portion of the conservative pay check earners have given up hope of the Republicans helping them make it. Success of the corporation at the expense of the paycheck earners is costing the conservative agenda. Paycheck Joe can't make it anymore. He has to do something different, he did. Clinging to old ideals and standards that don't function anymore can't keep him in the fold.

The liberals operate the same. They supported NAFTA, GATT, WTO, bank deregulation and most other corporate oriented programs and legislation. They just pander to a different clientel by what they promise to keep themselves in office.

The poll at the ballott box says that a LOT of people have changed thier mind, possibly because they don't see evidence that the party they had supported is concerned about them. eddie

blind ear · « **Reply #27 on:** May 28, 2009, 12:26:35 AM »

Correction: The conservative Supream Court allowed the takeing of private land for "PRIVATE USE" through emminent domain rather than "for use of public benefit only" as the constitution guarantees.eddie

Oldshooter · « **Reply #28 on:** May 28, 2009, 10:50:41 AM »

Quote from: nw_hunter on May 27, 2009, 02:14:46 PM

Quote from: Oldshooter on May 27, 2009, 05:18:21 AM
Quote from: eddiegjr on May 26, 2009, 12:31:04 PM
Legacy of the George W Bush Republican era: It put the country in the attitude to elect Obama?

Thats a load of crap! Actually the folk that voted for obama would have voted for him no matter what "W" did!
At least half of the people in this country are to stupid to vote! When a shister used car salesman comes along and preaches he is gonna make everything right and take the mnoney from the wealthy and give em some they will vote for him!

Not a bunch of crap! My neighbor voted for Obammy, and he had always voted Republican. I asked him why, and he said because of the mess the last eight years had produced under GW.

Bush did more to finish the Republican party, than any before him.

THATS A LOAD OF CRAP! You've read too much media propaganda or didn't you hear that the media is the public relations firm for tthe democratic party. Your neighbor fits into the too stupid to vote catagory! Everything that this fool is doing is going towards finishing this country as we know it! "W" fought terrorism and made his mistakes but he aint a communist and your dumb neighbor and everyone else that voted for obama or voted for someone that had no chance of winning put him in offoce! Dont like "W", you'll just love this moron or should I say moron lover!