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.308 /110 grain round nose
« on: May 26, 2009, 05:22:48 PM »
Anybody ever load these for a .30/06.  They will not work with my Marlin .30-30 so I thought of using them in my Remington 700 in front of some IMR 4895.

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Re: .308 /110 grain round nose
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2009, 08:18:29 AM »
Explain what you mean "not work" .If you mean they don't group worth a rats behind in a 30-30, changes are slim they would work in a 30-06.
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Re: .308 /110 grain round nose
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2009, 08:27:36 AM »
I tried loading them for my Marlin 336 which I bought new in 2003.  I loaded them to the specs in my Lyman manual (I believe that was teh one I used) but they would not chamber.  I then saw a note in my Speer manual saying the bullets will not cycle in newer model Marlins or something to that effect.  I don;t have my manual in fornt of me for the exact wording.

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Re: .308 /110 grain round nose
« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2009, 08:28:26 AM »
I've been using reduced load 110's in my -06 H&R single shot.  Speer spire 110gr, and some 110gr RN's I had.  They group OK sitting on 43gr H4895.  That's just one weekend worth of testing though.  Just got into it Friday.

By OK, I mean 6" off hand open sight groups at 120 yards.  Probably tighten up if I decided to scope it, fix my rear sight (it's bottomed out and was still shooting low, so I have to mutate my sight picture) or use something to lean on other than a rickety fence post.

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O.K. Re: .308 /110 grain round nose
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2009, 08:33:29 AM »
Which .308/110 bullet? There were many, many for .30 carbine. Jack O'Connor wrote of the dark, desperate days of WW II when the government was hogging all the bullets and powder and brass (Ghee, do you think) and they loaded, in desperation, .30 Lugar bullets in '06 for varmints. Lousy ballistics and coyotes ran off, but the gun went bang and coyote numbers seemed to drop...

If you over work the bullet, it is going to give lousy performance in any gun. In a .30/30 ... you might need to cut the load or push it up a bit. The .30 FMJ's mil bullets would/should take about anything. In '06 you will possibly apply more force and get worse performance, unless you load way down using, say, the 110 grain .30 short jacket data Hornady has published for that bullet...

You have a bullet. It has a use. Find the performance level it is designed for, work there and you should be happy. Try to haul 10 tons in a pickup and you wouldn't be happy either... Luck.

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Re: .308 /110 grain round nose
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2009, 08:54:41 AM »
Cherokee: That they did not chamber isn't a problem of the shape of those RN's. Either the cases aren't sized fully or the OAL is wrong. What would concern me is that those 110 gr bullets do not have a crimping groove and a full tube in your 336 might just push them deeper.
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Re: .308 /110 grain round nose
« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2009, 07:30:32 AM »
Cherokee: That they did not chamber isn't a problem of the shape of those RN's. Either the cases aren't sized fully or the OAL is wrong. What would concern me is that those 110 gr bullets do not have a crimping groove and a full tube in your 336 might just push them deeper.

BBF is right there - if the RN bullet was causing a problem it would be binding way before entering the chamber.  Heck some people load spitzer bullets for their .30-30's and slip them in 1 at a time (effectively making a lever a single shot).  They shoot fine, though they'd never cycle through the action.

Try FL resizing and try a taper crimp to see if that helps. 

As to using them in a .30-06 - I certainly haven't tried it, and I don't have any manuals on me ATM (at work), but I think I've seen a load or two listed for them.  Personally the only thing I've used them for is to load up 7.62x25 rounds - the 110gr's are the cheapest thing I can load for that round.

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Re: .308 /110 grain round nose
« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2009, 08:08:22 AM »
Hornady list 9 loads for the 110 gr. bullet . With either imr 3031 or win-748 you can reach 3500 fps . Wow , 200 fps faster than a 55 gr. 223 and twice the bullet weight , hum .
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Re: .308 /110 grain round nose
« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2009, 01:01:33 PM »
I load The Hornady 110gr V-max Over Varget in a T/C 30-06 Prohunter . I've had great Luck with this combo.  1/2" groups are the norm @ 100yards.  I can't say about the RN bullets But the Long V-max works great.
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Re: .308 /110 grain round nose
« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2009, 10:37:03 AM »
I've loaded 110gr HPs for my 308, 300WM and a 300Ultra. These were Speers I think. I don't know that I'd try the RN bullets at high velocites though. They might not ever make it out to the target without coming apart.

In the 336, were you loading them singlely or trying to jack them outa the tube?


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Re: .308 /110 grain round nose
« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2009, 03:04:26 AM »
I loaded the 110 gr round nose a couple of years ago for my Rem 760 and SPR 18. I'm new to shooting and wasn't looking for MOA accuracy but used them for 100 yd offhand shooting paractice because of cost and low recoil. As I recall, I was getting about 2MOA (benchrested) vs the 1MOA I get from 165gr BTSP in the 760 and 3/4 MOA from 130gr SP in the SPR 18.