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Offline lsmith103

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Rossi 92 history
« on: February 23, 2009, 04:21:05 PM »
Curious about the history of the 92.  When Rossi started building them, were they always called Puma, when did they make the first SS models, etc..
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Re: Rossi 92 history
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2009, 11:03:45 AM »
I'm not sure when Rossi started the 92,  I know there are different importers out there.  Back in the late 80's I had a Rossi imported by interarms.  I now have an EMF Hartford model, also a Rossi,  but it's cosmetically a little different than the Puma (Legacy Sports?) , which is also made by Rossi out of Brazil.  You could do a search on info maybe and find out when they started using ss and maybe even when the first 92 came out.  There have been changes made over the years, they use coil springs now instead of leaf springs, and have a dopey little safety on top (it comes off).  Maybe someone on here knows when the first ones came out. 

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Re: Rossi 92 history
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2009, 05:21:32 PM »
Not much help here, but I remember reading an artical many, many years ago (20+) about a guy that was in the jungles of S. America and said he saw a replica of the 92 being used and thought it was perfect for that area.  Hope it wasn't a dream, but I'm sure I remember it.  Like I said, not much help, don't know where the artical was or how long ago.  CRS hits often :-[.  DP
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Re: Rossi 92 history
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2009, 07:43:40 AM »
I can't tell you the history, but I bought my first one in 44-40 around 1986 or 87.  Wish I still had it.
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Re: Rossi 92 history
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2009, 03:10:30 PM »
Interarms began importing the Rossi back in the early to mid-1970's and did so until Interarms'  owner passed away.  Since that time they have been imported by EMF, Navy Arms, Legacy Sports and IAR, Inc.  Navy has recently dropped the line and Legacy is in process of converting to an Italian (Chiappa) supplier.  Since Taurus has taken over distribution of other Rossi products, we'll have to wait and see about the Puma's future in the U.S.     
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Re: Rossi 92 history
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2009, 06:21:50 AM »
I was under the impression that the Puma brand name was bought out by Howa and the manufacture of the 92 line was now being built in Italy by Chiappa Firearms. The price of them has almost doubled and they no longer make any model in Stainless. Rossi continues to manufacture their model 92, blued and stainless and now markets them under their own name along with EMF and others.
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Re: Rossi 92 history
« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2009, 01:07:15 PM »
Amadeo Rossi S.A began the productions of model 92 in the early years of the 70's decade.
Early models have not the designation puma, and are only in .38SPL/.357 Mag.
The name puma was coined later, when the model become with a "medal" of a puma head in the receiver.
Sometime later Rossi began the production of models in .44 mag, .44-40, in a variety of finishes, including stailess steel, engraved receivers, octogonal barrels, etc.
Today Rossi sell the rights of the most part of your firearms models to Taurus, and only produce the M92 and some shotguns.
The idea for manufacture the M92 was from Mr. Goiricela Uriarte, Chief of the Rossi design dept.
Mr. Uriarte was a great fan os the original Winchesters lever actions...

Sorry for so bad english...
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Re: Rossi 92 history
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2009, 12:29:12 PM »
My thanks to all for the history lessons.  The 92 .38/.357 SS I bought a couple of weeks ago has no other designation that Rossi and is in almost new condition. I finally had a chance to shoot it last friday, and its without a doubt the sweetest rifle I've shot in the last 50 years. Even with these old eyes, and wearing the wrong glasses, the holes were all where I pointed the front sight.  I also bought a Marlin 1894 in .44sp/.44mag 2 weeks earlier and I'm now waiting for a box and return label to send it back to Marlin for repair as it doesn't feed .44 Specials.  Old fashioned I guess but I expect a new rifle costing me over $500 to work properly when it comes out of the box.
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Re: Rossi 92 history
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2009, 09:46:12 AM »
Quote from: lsmith103 on March 09, 2009, 12:29:12 PM
Old fashioned I guess but I expect a new rifle costing me over $500 to work properly when it comes out of the box.

That's exactly why I bought the puma 44 instead of the marlin 44.  Marlin makes a good rifle, but there are a lot of reports on the "marlin jam" especially with the 44 mags.

I bought my puma in 2007 for about $425 and it's a stainless 20" 44mag.  Today in my town that same rifle sells just shy of $600.  I'm really glad I bought mine when I did.
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Re: Rossi 92 history
« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2009, 02:21:59 PM »
I just picked up a Rossi 44 Magnum/Special today for $450 and haven't taken it out of the box to clean it yet, The dealer has had it since about Dec/Jan time frame and I finally bought it today after couple friends telling me they are better built then Marlin's. That and the fact I have been looking for one for 6 months with no luck. 

Having bought a Marlin 1894C (357/38) back about January and I really like it, but I have never been able to put 10 rounds in the gun in either caliber. Also had a few minor hickups wih feeding, but I will admit it was LSWC/HP so I wasn't too put out. 

One thing I have on my Marlin is a Skinner Peep Sight and I love it, wish the Rossi was a side eject like the Marlin or at least D&T for Peeps.
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Re: Rossi 92 history
« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2009, 09:27:38 PM »
A little off topic here Waldo Pepper but I have a Skinner dovetail mounted peep on my Rossi 357 mag 24" octagonal barrel . I chose his compact dovetail mounted peep . The rifle shoots better than I can hold it .
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Re: Rossi 92 history
« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2009, 07:18:23 AM »
I have a Model 92 (EMF Hartford) in 45 LC that I use for cowboy shooting.  I have been pleased with the rifle. It's action is not as smooth as a model 1873 but it is smooth enough for my poor talents. It is hell for stout, and very light.  In makes a great brush/camp gun.  I can see my self using it next deer season while still hunting in the woods.  It is a 75-100 yard rifle, so it is limited to brush work.  I still need my 30-06 for open field shooting from a tree stand.   

I, too, have heard the story that the folks at Rossi decided to build it back in the 1970s because one of their founders thought the Model 92 would make a perfect rifle for rain forest conditions. 
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Re: Rossi 92 history
« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2009, 08:02:04 AM »
Was looking at a .44 M92 last week and was surprised to see it was stamped made by Taurus
instead of Rossi, was the Puma.
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Re: Rossi 92 history
« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2009, 11:35:59 AM »
Mine is made in Brazil and a model M-92 imported by the new outfit BRAZTECH that is their importer now. Has a 20" round barrel and the manual safety.
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Re: Rossi 92 history
« Reply #14 on: May 29, 2009, 03:25:06 AM »
BRAZTECH is Rossi's new partnership with Taurus - some say Rossi is now owned by Taurus International - for US importation of Model 92's.

My new .357 is so marked, as is the box/etc.

AFAIK, After the original Winchester Model 92, a Spanish clone called the El Tigre'  was made, and distributed heavily in SA - where eventually Rossi picked up on making a Model 92 after the El Tigre' was discontinued.

For quite a few years Rossi was the sole maker, world-wide, of Model 92's - under whatever label for various customers & importers (Puma/Legacy/LSI/Navy Arms/etc) - until Miroku (Japan) got into the act, making new "Browning's" at first, then new "Winchester's" for whatever Winchester was calling itself by then.

Today, there's only three Model 92 players, world-wide - Rossi (SA), Miroku (Japan), and Chiappa (Italy) - and it makes no difference, excepting quality of finish and "features". what "name" any may be tagged with.

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Re: Rossi 92 history
« Reply #15 on: May 29, 2009, 03:52:17 AM »
I've always wanted to buy another puma 92 in 44mag for no other reason than jsut to have an extra for a hunting buddies.  I'm not buying any model 92 that's assosiated with Taurus.  Did the Rossi already quit making them, or when do they plan to stop making them?  I'd like to get another one of these days.
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Re: Rossi 92 history
« Reply #16 on: June 04, 2009, 04:16:11 PM »
I just bought a Brasstech/Taurus 92 last week.  I had an LSI Rossi for a while I've been inside of both guns to do trigger work and change out ejector springs.  There is no difference that I can see.  The old LSI gun had about 1 in 18 twist I believe and all the newer .357's have 1 in 30 twist.  That worried me as I shoot mainly .38's but after trying a friends gun for accuracy they handle .38's just fine.  Fit and finish on mine is good, feeds round nose and SWC's with no problems.  The EMF Rossi's have Marble buckhorn sights and gold bead front which is a slight upgrade from the Brsstech Rossi.  Also the EMF has an additional plug screw in the top tang that allows the mounting of the Taurus tang sight without D&T.  I'm going to have to D&T mine.
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