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Offline prospector86

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67 cal.
« on: June 11, 2009, 09:10:00 AM »
I just bought a 67 cal. flint lock form a guy in town and was wondering what would be a good charge for it useing fff powder.

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Re: 67 cal.
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2009, 03:11:05 PM »
can you post a picture and or give the writing on it.  30 years ago there was some real junk sold  shooters.  If it was something from Century Arms, with a stock that looks like cheap stained Pine and a lousy fit brass butt cap, I wouldn't shoot it.  They were recalled nd the store I worked at never got them all back.  There were matching long guns that did blow up on folks.  n one incident outside Philadelphia, two brothers were killed.   If there;s any possibility it is one of those guns, don't DON"T shoot it until it is checked out thoroughly by a knowledgeable smith.

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Re: 67 cal.
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2009, 06:05:44 PM »
If it proves to be a safe make, and it's OK to shoot, I suggest using ffg powder, fffg is for calibers below .50.
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Re: 67 cal.
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2009, 04:24:49 AM »
here's a couple of pictures of the pistol

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Re: 67 cal.
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2009, 05:26:53 AM »
It's hard to say, some of these were sold as decorator items and not intended to be fired while some are quite safe to fire. I'd recomend you have it checked out by a qualified gunsmith who knows muzzleloaders, many gunsmiths don't. A friend had one of those which never had the vent drilled, which is not a good sign, but we drilled it and fired it a few times with 40 grains of powder and a .648" ball in a thick patch. It didn't blow up in my face but I sure was nervous touching it off. ;D
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Re: 67 cal.
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2009, 05:40:13 AM »
This looks like one of the "Tower" repro's from the 60s?  As was voiced earlier, there was some real "junk" put on the market and before shooting this one, you should have it checked out by a good gunsmith who is familiar with black powder weapons. I've been involved in BP shooting since the 60s and with ANY gun, SAFETY comes first!  It's been a long time since the 60s, but I do remember the brand that the one fellow that responded is talking about and they were definately UNSAFE - real junk and an accident waiting to happen.  I also remember a flintlock pistol that was put on the market (I'm sorry but I can't rememvber the brand name) that actually had the breechplug "pinned" into the breech of the barrel instead of being threaded - obviously a safety hazzard and after a number of mishaps, they were recalled also.  If I remember it right, the breechplug was tapered and pressed fit into a corresponding taper int he breech of the barrel and then "pinned" throught he barrel walls and breech plug.  Whoev er the idiot was that thought that up should have been made to shoot them and experience the plug shearing the pin and blowing backwards in the direction of his face!  Play it safe and have it checked out by a good gunsmith - even if it checks out, it wouldn't be a bad idea to "proof" the barrel - i.e. - remove it from the stock, secure it to an old tire pointing it in a safe direction and put a load and double ball in it, use a piece of fuse and touch it off with you being in the distance - a very safe distance in case it should blow.  If the barrel blows - better that you loose the barrel than your hand or eyesight!  Even with a new barrel, when I am building a muzzleloading rifle, I ALWAYS proof it with a heavy load and double ball and then check for any defects - splits, bulges, strength of threads on breechplug, etc. 

I remember the pistols like yours being around - if the barrel and everything else checks out O.K. - I think one of the problems with them was also a problem with the frizzens not being hard enough to cause sparks - if this is the case, a good gunsmith should be able to harden the face of the frizzen so it will throw good sparks.

Good luck and as always in this hobby - play safe!
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