Author Topic: Jam, Jam, and more jams...sig P220 (Read 13167 times)

Siskiyou · « **Reply #30 on:** April 24, 2007, 03:17:53 PM »

RogueRam: I worked for an agency that service the Sig's on a regard bases. Never had a problem before or after. Glock must have cut a big deal because the Sigs are gone.

1marty · « **Reply #31 on:** April 24, 2007, 04:18:30 PM »

I bought a brand new browning hi power about 2 years ago and from the beginning I had jams, action would stay open after a few rounds and brutal hammer bite. Had the gun examined by a 2 gun smiths; one said it was limp wrist, the other said to change ammo!!! I changed magazines, oiled-didn't oil, tried different ammo etc. Finally, I returned the it to Browning. Had it back in a few weeks and the gun performed great. Browning put on the repair order "minor adjustment". I called Browning and no one seemed to recall exactly what was done to the gun. Who cares. I've never had a problem since.

mcwoodduck · « **Reply #32 on:** January 01, 2008, 08:37:04 AM »

Hey Mark.
I have a 220 as well that does not like the aluminum cases. will work fine with the brass stuff as well as my reloads but the book says don't use Al cases. Try a box of Win USA 230 grain or Remington UMC Ball ammo and if it doesn't work perfect I'll offer to buy the gun from you.

kiddekop · « **Reply #33 on:** March 05, 2008, 09:42:38 AM »

A few years ago I purchased 1000 rounds of PMP 220gr ball at the SHOT Show in Las Vegas for $150 have been using it without any problems along with speer & federal.I lube my handguns with Militec 1.An ex marine corps armorer I met in the cop shop where I worked told me to never fire any lead ammo in the Sig . I reload ammo with a Dillon RL550B.At a Raahauges Shooting Sports Fair in Norco,CA I asked Jerry Miculek who supplied his ammo,he told me he has banks of Dillon progressive reloaders & the sponsors provide Bullseye,Bullets,Primers & Brass that he reloads, the comp shooters told me 98% of competative shooters reload with Dillon machines.

rusticbob · « **Reply #34 on:** March 21, 2008, 12:26:30 AM »

Wow! It sounds like you have a real problem with this Sig 220, must be a "lemon". I'd get rid of it if I were you, I'll give you $250. for it sight unseen! What do you think?
Seriously though, it sounds like a operator problem. If you have only shoot "wheelguns" its no wonder you might be "limpwristing". It took me 3-400 rounds to make the transition from a Colt Python to a Kimber 1911 and be able to hit anything. Now after thousands of rounds I'd never go back to a revolver. Good luck!

darrell8937 · « **Reply #35 on:** May 04, 2008, 08:47:39 AM »

User "Savage " is dead on. Statements like " Sigs are totally unreliable!" are just plain wrong! No mater what firearm you purchase for defense, needs to be proved, from a 250 dollar Kel tech to a 2500 dollar Kimber, no exceptions. Cheap guns can work, expensive guns can fail. In every model there are good ones and bad ones. Some that shine and others are just plain boat anchors. Shoot them alot and work out the bugs, Some just won't make it! And I mean individual guns and not a Manufacturer! Scientist take large samples for their research for a reason. I love my Sig, I have some Rugers that also work great. I am currently working on a AR 180b Problem child. I will not slam all AR 180's because of this one.

rockbilly · « **Reply #36 on:** May 06, 2008, 07:04:18 AM »

Cheap guns can work and expensive guns fail.................well said, I have a Polish p-64 9x18 Mak that has never missed a beat with well over 500 rounds put through it. I had a pair or Kimbers that was lucky to fire a half dozen rounds without a feed problem or a stovepipe. Needless to say, dem puppies have new homes.

rem700-3 · « **Reply #37 on:** May 18, 2008, 08:17:05 AM »

I have an old European 220 beveled slide that have shot tens of thousands of rounds through and any problem that I ever had was ammo or shooter I also have a 220 I bought new in 92 and have shot thousands of rounds through with the same result mostly the cheap ammo provided for annual qualification or a hot tired long day in July leading to poor grip probably less than ten jams in all these years BUT some guns dont fit some people you have to find what you handle and are confident and competent with my life I trust to sig 220 completely

sweet45 · « **Reply #38 on:** October 31, 2008, 04:29:11 AM »

The issues i've seen regarding sigs is with the 220's new internal extactor. Unlike a 1911, I would only buy a 220 with an external extractor. Also a spring kit should be standard maintenance in keeping that sig running like a rolex.

Lee Robinson · « **Reply #39 on:** December 30, 2009, 04:38:00 PM »

I should have updated this thread.

I have two kimber 1911s (one for about a year, the other for about 2 years) and have no problems. I suspect either I just had a fluke of Sig, or it just wasn't for me. No biggie. I'm loving the Kimbers.

Noreaster · « **Reply #40 on:** December 31, 2009, 01:31:45 PM »

I carry a Sig and I've been through many Sig schools. These are wet guns. You need allot of oil on the slide rails, just about any place you see the wear marks of steel on steel. On the other hand, NH State Police bought P220s a couple of years ago and had huge problems with them and handed them back in and got the M&P 45 auto. Buddy of mine is a trooper and he only had the gun for a little over a year before they got rid of them. I've always had good luck with my Sigs; P228, P226, P229, P232.

bubbinator · « **Reply #41 on:** February 05, 2010, 09:32:42 PM »

My State Police Agency went to Sig P220s after an agent put 17 ! 9mm Hydr-shoks in a bad guy and a single .45 rd put him down. Our shooter-error rate and malfunction rate declined dramatically! (We had Glock 17s peviously) During the 7-8 yrs. we carried the P220s they recalled ALL the blue steel mags (cracking along the back side of lips) and replaced them with SS mags. Thus you may have a mag problem as some suggested. We completely overhauled all the weapons after 7 yrs. then due t change in administration went to Glock 22s. Many agents bought their P220s and still carry and qualify w/o problems. We don't have the "limp-wristing" issue so common with the Glock 17 with the 22s, but proper grip and weapon control is vital to make the phsyics work! Check your mags and your grip. Hogue Rubber grips are wonderful things. Good luck.

slim rem 7 · « **Reply #42 on:** February 21, 2010, 01:42:07 AM »

all guns ,,take a getting to know period of time..
ive owned several autoloaders that were dependable..sig p225 being my favorite but one of the the best was a cheap old titan 25 cal..
that said ..i settled on a quality wheel gun[s&w 60]..it still takes ,,getting to know it,, to hit what you aiming at..
but its gonna go bang when i pull the trigger until its empty..this assuming the rnds in it,, will go bang, in the first place..slim

oldsoldja · « **Reply #43 on:** February 21, 2010, 05:31:36 AM »

a revolver is the only defense gun for me.

oldsoldja · « **Reply #44 on:** February 21, 2010, 05:33:16 AM »

Quote from: 1marty on April 24, 2007, 04:18:30 PM

I bought a brand new browning hi power about 2 years ago and from the beginning I had jams, action would stay open after a few rounds and brutal hammer bite. Had the gun examined by a 2 gun smiths; one said it was limp wrist, the other said to change ammo!!! I changed magazines, oiled-didn't oil, tried different ammo etc. Finally, I returned the it to Browning. Had it back in a few weeks and the gun performed great. Browning put on the repair order "minor adjustment". I called Browning and no one seemed to recall exactly what was done to the gun. Who cares. I've never had a problem since.

probably because you subconiously started holding it tighter.

glockman55 · « **Reply #45 on:** February 22, 2010, 02:26:18 AM »

Threads like this always bring out the El-Cheapo gun supporters. LOL
Sig is one of the top gun makers out there, if you do like them don't buy them, If there is a problem with his 220, Sig will fix or replace it. Why come on here a bash them? Sounds like a poor cleaning job or crap ammo. Don't blame the Gun.

LEO · « **Reply #46 on:** February 28, 2010, 02:49:13 PM »

Sigs are quality firearms and generally function great, however just as with anything mechanical they do produce some with problems. I have seen a Sig come out of the box with a feed ramp that looked like a file, I doubt the gun would have fed anything but the determining factor was that Sig made the gun right. One gun doesn't make or break a manufacturer, you must look at how the majority of their products funtion. It is just like the old argument about reliability between the revolver and semi-auto, the only stoppage I have ever had that could not be cleared by an immediate action drill was with a revolver but that doesn't make revolvers unreliable.

Lee Robinson · « **Reply #47 on:** February 28, 2010, 04:12:12 PM »

FYI, for the record...

I do NOT hold a grudge against Sig in anyway, shape, or form. Their reputation of excellence is superb. If the gun had a problem or not, it just wasn't for me...so I moved on. I don't regret it at all. They are obviously a great company. But, being happy with my Kimbers it is unlikely that I would buy another Sig...but I certainly have no hard feelings towards them.

temmi · « **Reply #48 on:** May 07, 2010, 07:40:44 AM »

While this may not help you at all... I don't remember any jams with my P220 at all.

If you are having that much trouble, you should call SIG and get them to take a look at it.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #49 on:** May 07, 2010, 09:02:14 AM »

I have only had one sig that didn't work perfect . I never shot it , got it to carry it was a 9 mm . A few days later came across a deal on the same gun in 40 and got it . Kept the 9 several years and traded it back to the dealer. He sold it the same day . A few weeks later it came back with many problems . He was a sig dealer and sent it to the factory . Seems the cop who was the first owner and the one before me had done a botched action job.
If your gun was preowned maybe it could be in need of new springs and a couple parts . Maybe just adjusting .

Noreaster · « **Reply #50 on:** May 16, 2010, 01:12:31 PM »

NH State Police bought P220 a few years ago for duty guns. They had so many problems they gave the guns back and bought S&W M&P 45. Mass State Police switched from P226 to P226 DAK and they ran into a huge problem and had to ship them back, (Sig initially blamed the agency, but then found a part was not up to specs and it had to be replaced.)

I carry a Sig every day. Yes it has jammed on me, but it was the exception not the rule. I love my P229. I believe Sig got too busy with the Gov. contracts and the product has suffered. They have tripled the staff at the Exeter plant in the last few years. Sig customer service can't compare with S&W or Ruger. Sig tends to nickle and dime you on the little stuff. Sig is still a top of the line firearm, to hell and back they say. Good luck and I hope it works out for you.

bullet8542 · « **Reply #51 on:** May 26, 2010, 04:55:09 PM »

This is an interesting thread I have the whole stable of Sig's

(1)220
(3) 226
(1) 228
(2) 229
(1) 2340
(1)Sig Pro
(2) GSR

And a Blaser Rifle and never had an issue with any of them all great guns I carried the 226 for 6 years with no issues it saved my life on more than one occasion and it was a back up to a .45 MEU Pistol

Sorry to here of your troubles better luck with your next Sig.

bubbinator · « **Reply #52 on:** July 21, 2010, 09:42:48 PM »

RE: my earlier post- AL State Trooper SWAT at one time carried Sig P220s using 8rd mags, They found these mags to be unreliable and switched. to 7 rd mags, as issued with the weapon. They now carry Glocks-Go Figure. Murpheys Law- Your gun is made by the lowest bidder!

buck6571 · « **Reply #53 on:** January 08, 2011, 03:26:09 PM »

I suggest using the old mags . Not the ones that expend all the all the way across the top. The original only went about 1\2 the way across the top

demented · « **Reply #54 on:** January 20, 2011, 09:54:10 AM »

This is an old thread but since others are still posting......I purchased a like new SIG 220 a few months ago, it has the aggravating habit of not going completely into battery from time to time. It takes a hard rap on the back of the slide to get it to close the last 3/4" or so. I think my problem is the extractor tension being too tight, it feeds even ball with a "jerky" feel. Mine is a German made, stamped slide internal extractor model. I wonder what it's gonna end up costing me to get it working properly, that it doesn't run 100% is probably why the guy I bought it from parted with it.

mcwoodduck · « **Reply #55 on:** February 01, 2011, 02:00:43 PM »

Quote from: demented on January 20, 2011, 09:54:10 AM

This is an old thread but since others are still posting......I purchased a like new SIG 220 a few months ago, it has the aggravating habit of not going completely into battery from time to time. It takes a hard rap on the back of the slide to get it to close the last 3/4" or so. I think my problem is the extractor tension being too tight, it feeds even ball with a "jerky" feel. Mine is a German made, stamped slide internal extractor model. I wonder what it's gonna end up costing me to get it working properly, that it doesn't run 100% is probably why the guy I bought it from parted with it.

Even though it is a German gun call Sig in NH and they will help you.
Last thing they want is unhappy customers.

Graybeard · « **Reply #56 on:** November 26, 2019, 05:12:28 AM »