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Hornady 250 gr SST's- anyone used them?
« on: March 14, 2009, 02:54:29 AM »
Got a deal on some Hornady 250 gr SST's, so I thought I would give them
a try in my Triumph.

Anyone tried these, and if so how did they perform?
I use BH209, thought I would start @ 80 grs and work up.

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Re: Hornady 250 gr SST's- anyone used them?
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2009, 07:13:01 AM »
The hornady sst's are the same bullet as the T/C shockwaves. In fact hornady packages the shockwaves as such for T/C.  They work well in th e250 grain. I did not have good results with the 200 grain.
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Re: Hornady 250 gr SST's- anyone used them?
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2009, 01:21:09 PM »
i use the 250.gr. SST on the range very accurate in my ENCORE ...
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Re: Hornady 250 gr SST's- anyone used them?
« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2009, 01:29:33 PM »
Bubba and Blackpowder, What powder and grains are you useing with the SST?

I'm only useing BH209 now, if you are useing this powder what starting load do you suggest(use).

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Re: Hornady 250 gr SST's- anyone used them?
« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2009, 03:02:49 PM »
Hi tc...  I have an Omega that shoots very good with the 250 SST/Shockwave.  I started at 85grs of BH209 and worked my way up to 100.  That was all the recoil I wanted to deal with, but guys routinely go up to 110 with good results. 

My buddies have an Encore and Triumph and we all found the supplied sabot with the SST too hard to load.  We switched to the Harvester short black sabot and that did the trick... using Fed 209A primers. 

Good luck... Rob
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Re: Hornady 250 gr SST's- anyone used them?
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2009, 01:38:43 AM »
I have killed several deer and an awful lot of hogs with my Encore and the 250 grain SST/Shockwave; nearly all of them were bang flops.  The sabot used is the red one that loads hard.  It is also very accurate when fired from my gun.  I am currently using 110 grains of Goex 3F Pinnacle.

Put the 250 grain SST/ Shockwave in the right place and it will do a good job for you. 

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Re: Hornady 250 gr SST's- anyone used them?
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2009, 02:46:44 AM »
I have never used BH209. I am a triple 7 guy.  I was shooting 100 grains of loose fff with the sst/shockwave.  This was in my encore.  Shot well and worked well on deer.  I switched to the harvestor crush rib sabots black and they worked well for loading and pressure.  I have since switched to a .429 250 grain round nose bullet I mold mself and shoot in a harvestor cruch rib green sabot.  I  like them much better as far as cost wise and the pure lead seems to knock them flat also.  I hope this helps.

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Re: Hornady 250 gr SST's- anyone used them?
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2009, 04:27:00 AM »
alsaqr...Glad to see you're having good luck with them; I have yet to try the 250 SST/Shockwaves on game, but they are very accurate out of our T/C guns. I've seen arguments pro/con about this bullet on other sites... I'm guessing when guys don't recover game the bullet gets blamed, not the shooter.  I understand you can buy this flex-tip version of the (.452) 250 SST in bulk (like the XTP's).

bubba... I'm in the process of converting from 777 to BH209.  The more I shoot it (on my 3rd jug now), the more I like it.  In my case, I'm finding my pet loads in the T/C Omega also work with BH209. 
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Re: Hornady 250 gr SST's- anyone used them?
« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2009, 07:49:57 AM »
Thanks Bubba, I was useing the green crush rib with a 210 gr (.429) gold dot last year. Accuracy was good, not great. Did shoot one deer with it, dropped on the spot.
Had a bunch of them laying around from my 44 days. Bought the gun late in the year and didn't have time to do alot of testing.

Will have more time now to find a more accurate load. First up will be the 250 SST.
Didn't think the red would load hard with the .452 bullet since I measure them at .502 and the green crush rib with a .429 measured .501 and went down fairly easy. 

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Re: Hornady 250 gr SST's- anyone used them?
« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2009, 12:41:11 PM »
Bubba and Blackpowder, What powder and grains are you useing with the SST?

I'm only useing BH209 now, if you are useing this powder what starting load do you suggest(use).

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i only use TRIPLE 7 pellets also ,i am not too keen on lose powder..there is nothing wrong with BH209 lots of my friends shot with it..
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Re: Hornady 250 gr SST's- anyone used them?
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2009, 01:13:24 PM »
To finish my assessment, I shot a few deer with the 250 grain sst's.  They dropped within 10 yards of impact and worked well.  I have a friend who has a cva optima elite in 50 caliber.  He was shooting the 200 grain shockwaves.  Well he shot a 5 point at 40 yards broadside.  The bullet passed through both lungs and lodged against the opposite side shoulder.  Although the deer did die, he went over 500 yards before he did.  There was very little blood to trail even with both lungs punctured.  The shot placement could not have been better.  When we retrieved the bullet, it looked as it did when loaded.  There was no expansion at all.  He was shooting 110 grains of triple 7, so there was lots of  power behind it.  So, I would strongly recommend the 250 grain, but would not ever use the 200 grain.  The reasons I switched to a lead bullet I mold is the cost and they expand better than the jacketed bullets. I hunt almost exclusively with a muzzleloader, either my encore or my H&R sidekick. Last season I shot three deer with the muzzleloader.  The one that went the furthest was a 110 pound doe that ran about 15 yards and fell over with both lungs and the top of her heart gone. Exit hole through the ribs was about quarter sized.  I get lead for free, so my expense to shoot is down to powder, primers, and sabots.  I am in northern new york, so I have not been able to find BH209 yet locally.  I am old school where dirt is good. I wish I had all th eblack powder I have shot over the past 30 years.  If my eyes were better, I would still be using my T/C hawken with a round ball and Goex ffg. 
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Re: Hornady 250 gr SST's- anyone used them?
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2009, 08:09:50 AM »
bubba i am glad the sst's worked for u ...on the range i use the sst's and find them very accurate in my ENCORE . last year we used the HORNADY SST'S for our deer hunt and none of the deer dropped in they're tracks ,no blood trail ,and when we found them we could see that the SST'S penciled through the deer with no internal damage [reminded me of an arrow wound] i was lucky to find my deer we had 12"of snow on the ground..this year i will test the BARNES TMZ ...
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Re: Hornady 250 gr SST's- anyone used them?
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2009, 09:16:03 AM »
My experience has been really good with the Hornady SST's.

Using the 250 gr SST, Harvester smooth black sabot, 85 gr FFFg T7, and a #11 cap in a .50 cal Ruger 77/50.  I have shot seven deer from 15 to 100 yards taking out the heart or one or both lungs and none of them traveled more than sixty yards.  All recovered.

Using the 200 gr SST, Harvester smooth light blue sabot, 110 gr BH209, and a Winchester 209/FPJ in a .45 cal Wolverine 209.  I have shot four deer from 60 to 200 yards taking out one or both lungs and none of them traveled more than sixty yards.  All recovered.


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Re: Hornady 250 gr SST's- anyone used them?
« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2009, 09:31:13 AM »
Reese...  Did you get compete penetration... and how were the blood trails ?

I deer hunt in very thick pine and scub oaks where the avg shot is 15-30 yrds.  I need a bullet that delivers a DRT or a good blood trail.  Even a double lung hit sometime results in a 50 yd run.  If I don't have blood ... have to recover the next A.M.

The 200 & 250 SW/SST shoot great, but for now those "unsexy" XTP's work for me.  ;D
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Re: Hornady 250 gr SST's- anyone used them?
« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2009, 10:36:25 AM »
rt_con,

I did get complete penetration and it seemed that the lower the shot in the chest cavity, the better the blood trail.  None of the SST's blew a huge hole, but did seem to all be larger than one inch coming out.

If my max shot was under 100 yards (may be even 150 yards) I would load up with a 250 gr (.452) XTP (not mag) and have no doubts.  The XTP has done very well for me on about 6 to 7 deer.  It's been a while since I have hunted with them but they were very effective.   I never pushed them with more than 90 gr T7.  More powder than that, the XTP mag may be a better fit.

The place I hunt is over corn and soybean fields and I get several opportunities for 100 to 200 yard shots.  I have put in a lot of practise and with a solid rest, I have no problems under 200 yards.  The flatter trajectory at these longer ranges are why I prefer the SST/SW.  I get about a seven inch drop between 100 and 200 yards.  I split the difference and sight in to shoot about 3.5" high at 100 yards.

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Re: Hornady 250 gr SST's- anyone used them?
« Reply #15 on: June 15, 2009, 07:36:53 AM »
I shoot the 250 SST in my Savage.
Us Savage guys are shooting these slugs at hypervelocity with smokeless powder. I am getting  2,300 fps, and many of the guys are way above that!
I have gotten good results on deer with this load. Great expansion.
In fact, the problem with this slug and the Savage is too much expansion.
At these speeds, sometimes the bullet will blow up. Some of the guys have lost big deer on shoulder shots at close range due to this problem.
On the lung shot, the SST and the Savage are just deadly.
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Re: Hornady 250 gr SST's- anyone used them?
« Reply #16 on: June 17, 2009, 05:28:07 AM »
I shot the SST for about 5 years.  While they did kill deer I found the blood trais to be lacking on lung hits.  I switched to the Barnes TMZ and am much happier.  That will be my choice for my UT elk hunt this year.

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Re: Hornady 250 gr SST's- anyone used them?
« Reply #17 on: June 17, 2009, 06:11:26 AM »
I use those bullets in a encore with two triple 7 50gr pellets.  Pretty good accuracy out to 200 yards.