You mentioned calling Sierra for some specs, are you experimenting with flat-base round-nose style or boat-tail points? This is getting really interesting, I talked to a few other people that seem to think a boat-tail isnt any better than a flat-base and some times the flat is better inside of 100 yds. I would really be interested in what comes out of you and Aladin swapping notes, sounds like he has some good ideas too.