russian ammo for a tc?

[less9toes]

ok people this probably the wrong place, but i'm intending to use the loads in a tc. we all know there are some real attractive prices on russian ammo in 7.62x39 and 223 . i've got 2 questions concerning copper washed/plated steel bullets. 1.what is the effect of using them, do they accelerate barrel wear, how about galling or other bore damage. if you've used them in a tc, could you possibly provide some observations,accuracy,velocities or anything else that might help me to make a decision on using them. thanx to all:D

[Tommyt]

I believe the 7.62x39 russian ammo has to hot (pressure) for the contender I'm sure someone will tell it better than I

[KN]

They claim the varnish used on the steel cases cause extraction problems. This seems to be with Wolf ammo primarily. Personally I won't use the stuff. Never found any that was worth shooting.  KN

[securitysix]

Actually, the "varnish" (lacquer coating) used on Wolf and some other steel cased ammo is not the problem wtih extraction issues.  It was actually the sealant that Wolf was using around the bullet where it meets the neck.  Wolf has since stopped putting the red sealant around the bullet on .223 ammo, and it should be fine.  Even if they were still putting it on there, you'd have to shoot awful damn fast to get the lacquer or sealant to build up enough to be a problem.

[Robert]

I am glad to hear they stopped using it.  I guess I will have to go shoot this 1/2 brick that I have put away for terrorists and go buy a fresh one without the sealant.
  As mentioned earlier, yes the wolf IS extrememy hot.  If you have a 7.62x39 barrel for Contender....this is NOT considered to be a safe chambering for Contender.  Some people make them, but you should be hand-loading it to acceptable levels for your gun, the WOLF would definately be TOO HOT, as would most factory loads.
  The Wolf 223 ammo, frequently pops out the firing pin dent, but does not flatten the primers, it is right on the edge of terminal...It is hard on Contenders, especially if it is the stuff with the red sealant around
 the neck.  It will wear out your extractor very fast from having to FORCE it to eject.  The extactors on Contenders are very weak, however, they are fairly easy to replace, but sometimes require a little tweaking to get a new one to work properly.
  On the other hand, both the 223 and 7.62 Wolf work wonderful in my semi-autos, some people complain about it being 'dirty', but it is great stuff to stock up on the hollow points....I have NO DOUBT whatsoever that these little babies will put a Coyote or a terrorist down really fast.

[MnMike]

I have not used Russian ammo, but I have found that the cheap Winchester USA brand does shoot really well in my gun.