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100 pdr Parrott mounted on Marsilly carriage
« on: July 20, 2009, 05:52:36 PM »
Does anyone have any photographs, and/or drawings (period, or of a scale model) of the 100 pdr Parrott mounted on a Marsilly carriage?
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Re: 100 pdr Parrott mounted on Marsilly carriage
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2009, 09:00:40 PM »
AOP has a folio (No. 24) for a 60 Pdr PARROTT on a Navy Marsilly Carriage.
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Re: 100 pdr Parrott mounted on Marsilly carriage
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2009, 11:10:45 PM »
     Boom J,   I bet you have seen this photo before.  It's one of my favorite historical photos of all time.  You not only get the 100 Pdr. Parrott, on a Marsilly carriage, but you can see a naval percussion lock up on the reinforce and a hatchet on the left cheek, a very robust breeching hawser to control recoil, a spectacular saber locker (Repel Boarders!!), and, of course a First, Second or Third Class 'Boy', ( his rating), maybe a powder monkey or mess deck help.  From memory, I believe this is the Federal Navy Ship, Pawnee on East Coast Blockade duty during the Civil War.

Hope this helps you,

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Re: 100 pdr Parrott mounted on Marsilly carriage
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2009, 05:01:41 AM »
Hello Tracy, yes I've always like that picture too.  Can you verify that it is a 100-pounder Parrott?  Somehow i've always thought it was smaller, like maybe a 30-pounder.  Maybe we have to get the regulation length of the boarding-axe handle and do some extrapolation.  I kind of thought the 100-pounder would usually be seen in a pivot mount, but I haven't done any research on it today, jes' sorta blowin' smoke as it were.

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Re: 100 pdr Parrott mounted on Marsilly carriage
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2009, 06:57:20 AM »
     I told you I got the name of that ship from memory.  Well my memory is not perfect, so a retraction and correction are in order.  The name of the ship is the Federal Ship New Hampshire.  The armament of the New Hampshire was six 9" Dahlgren Shell Guns AND four 100 Pdr. Parrott, Seacoast and Navy, 6.4" Rifles, Model 1861.  There is a second photo, which I finally found, that shows another of the New Hamshire's 100 Pdr. Parrott's.  See it below.  I have never found a 200 Pdr. Parrott on a Marsilly carriage, only on shifting pivot carriages.

FYI,

Tracy

Another 100 Pdr. Parrott on the New Hampshire and look at the size of that block, you could probably do some heavy lifting with THAT!

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Re: 100 pdr Parrott mounted on Marsilly carriage
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2009, 10:13:20 AM »
Thank you George, Tracy, and John.

George, I saw the AOP listing for the 60-pounder. Maryland Silver Co., the other outfit that sells plans, lists the Navy 100-pounder Parrott on a "broadside carriage," which is probably describing a Marsilly, because the only two carriages (as far as I know) that the US Navy mounted these guns on (aboard ships) were the Marsilly and the pivot carriage.

Tracy, I do have that photo of the "Powder Monkey" in front of the 100-pounder on the weather deck of the New Hampshire, and also the second period photo that you posted, in fact these are the only period photos that I've got (so far) that show the carriage. I compliment you on your exquisite taste, if for no other reason than that it agrees with mine;:D  seriously, I also think this photo is one of the best photos I've ever seen, bar none. You already mentioned a lot of its fine details, and in my opinion there's also the fact that this photographer had to be either a remarkable artist, or there was an incredible amount of serendipity that took place in achieving the near perfect composition of the picture. There are high resolution large giclee prints of this photo now offered for sale, and one of these days I'm going to get one.

John, Tracy has it covered, the USS New Hampshire was launched in April of 64, and it immediatley set sail to join the South Atlantic Blockading Squadron, it docked at Port Royal, South Carolina in July of the same year, and it served there as a store and depot ship until the end of the war. It's armament is recorded as consisting of four 100-pounder Navy Parrotts, and six IX-inch Dahlgrens. The CW period photo of the powderboy in front of the Parrott is shown on many different sites with captions that identify the ship as the New Hampshire, and the location as Charleston, SC.

So far I've got the two photos that Tracy posted, and three pics of a scale model; if anybody has anything more I'd appreciate it if you posted it here.

Model of a 100-pdr Navy Parrott, 26" long steel barrel, 1-inch bore.



 
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Re: 100 pdr Parrott mounted on Marsilly carriage
« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2009, 01:56:45 PM »
I found this photo on the web about a year ago.  In the background there appears to be a 60 or 100 lb. Parrott barrel on an iron Marsilly carriage.  Does anyone know more about this display? 


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Re: 100 pdr Parrott mounted on Marsilly carriage
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2009, 02:15:15 AM »
Thanks Dom, I tried to zoom in on the plaque, but I can't make much out of it. What I'm looking for is anything pertaining to the large oak Marsilly carriage that the 100-pdr was sometimes mounted on aboard Federal ships.

I found another period picture, but I can't make out much detail on the carriage.

RIP John. While on vacation July 4th 2013 in northern Wisconsin, he was ATVing with family and pulled ahead of everyone and took off at break-neck speed without a helmet. He lost control.....hit a tree....and the tree won.  He died instantly.

The one thing that you can almost always rely on research leading to, is more research.