cabeals double barrel shotgun

[sachel.45]

anybody have one? specifically the 12 gauge one i have a few questions. what kind of choke tube does it take? also whats the maximum powder charge? (just curious) how do you like it? been thinking about getting one and figured somebody here had to have one

[sachel.45]

find out the chokes it takes win chokes for the 12 gauge the 10 gauge uses a special kind specfic to it

[Winter Hawk]

There is an article in the July/August Backwoodsman Magazine where the guy has one, and seems to like it alright.  It matches up very closely to an original 1800s double shotgun he has.

-WH-

[sachel.45]

read that good article

[Forestclimber]

I think the 12 gauge chokes may be the Winchoke/Mossberg 500/Browning invector type, but I am not 100% sure of that.  Just what I heard.

[Wolfgang]

anybody have one? specifically the 12 gauge one i have a few questions. what kind of choke tube does it take? also whats the maximum powder charge? (just curious) how do you like it? been thinking about getting one and figured somebody here had to have one

sachel.45

I have one and have had it for around 10-12yrs.  Not sure about the chokes bought them all when I bought the shotgun.  Max Charge is 80 grains if memory serves but you end up blowing pattens if you run too high plus there is little to no gain in pumping it up.  I have not fired the thing for better than six or eight years now.  It took a lot of work to figure out what it liked but it was fun.  They're getting pretty pricy nowadays!

Best,

Wolfgang

[wganz]

Since they're ML that means that they're exempt from NFA 34 barrel length restrictions. Here is a pix of one that has been reduced to 14.5" for home defense use.

[DanChamberlain]

Have one.  Love it.  It's a shooter!

It shoots best with 70 to 80 grains of bp.  I don't use all the wads commonly used.  Found the over powder card (about 1/4 inch thick) was blowing through my shot patterns and hitting the target.  I only use two types of wads now.  The over shot card is a thin white card that will easily load through full chokes.  The cushion wad I cut to 1/4 inch thick and lube.  So I load:  Powder/2 over shot cards seated directly on the powder/one 1/4 inch cushion wad/shot/single over shot card. 

This seems to give me pretty good patterns.  I hunt several state parks that allow only shotguns and it has never failed to drop a squirrel from the upper reaches of the pecan trees.  It kills doves if I managed to hold my lead and though I haven't tried a ball out of it, I'm sure that I could kill a deer with it if one walked within 25 yards of my stand. 

As for the short barrels, I believe that the ATF did in fact make them "destructive devices" and no new ones can be manufactured.  Those in existance prior to the judgement are exempt...but if you cut the barrels off one now, you may be violating the law. 

Dan

[coyotejoe]

Not to mention that it would be a dastardly thing to do to a fine shotgun!

[wganz]

As for the short barrels, I believe that the ATF did in fact make them "destructive devices" and no new ones can be manufactured.  Those in existence prior to the judgement are exempt...but if you cut the barrels off one now, you may be violating the law. 

Muzzle loaders are exempt from both the NFA 34 and the GCA 68. That is why you can get 1860 replicas with a shoulder stock from EMF today. Now there may be state and local restrictions that require subjects of the various People's Republics regimes to be under more stringent restrictions but not so here in Texas.

As far as it being a 'dastardly' thing to do; well, I got peripheral neuropathy from frost bite back in 1982 up on the DMZ in ROK so I don't go out hunting in the cold so much anymore plus someone has to do it.