Need Help Fast & Bad !!!!

[casper_zip]

Hello again:   :oops:

Today I got my RWS 1 piece scope mount and was elated. Alas, after several hours, I still am unable to get this M-34 RWS to shoot on target with the scope. I'll admit, the scope is a cheap Wal-Mart one. It is supposed to be for an air rifle, made by Daisy and named: Powerline. It is a 3x9 variable.

This gun is a super shooter with "iron" sights. When I bought the scope it came with nice looking rings, and I put the scope on then, and it would not shoot to target. It shot about a foot low and after putting the new RWS "adjustable" mount on, still shooting about a foot low. I have adjusted everything twice, 3 times, done all I know what to do. I am about ready to throw in the towel.

Can anyone please help me ?? I'm too tired to mess with it any more this evening, tho. The mount is the one piece RWS. I got it from MidSouth, and I think it cost about 43 or 45 dollars. Sure need to get my scoped gun going. Thanks a million in advance.

Casper_Zip :cry:  :cry:  :cry:

[Carl l.]

Casper_Zip, If I read you right you put on the scope first and tried to adjust it. I am thinking that you tried to raise the scope and you have adjusted it as high as it will go. Then you put on the RWS adjustable scope mount. You can adjust the mounts to raise the sights as far as you want to. I don't know anything about the scope that you have, but I would turn it back to "0". Adjust the mounts first. You can raise the back or the front. Use the allen wrench that came with the mounts to loosen or tighten. Try shooting at about 10 yds with a big piece of cardboard and you can tell where it is shooting, When you get it close then you can adjust the scope.
ps, you have to loosen both front and back of the adjustable mounts to get it to go up and down. I hope this helps Carl L.

[dave]

The reason its shooting so low is called droop. The barrel is probably not exactly in line with the receiver, a condition common to break barrel guns. It's almost certainly pointed a degree or two downward from the receiver.  The iron sights work well because both front and rear sights are mounted on the barrel, so they are in alignment with the bore.  The scope rings however are mounted on the receiver, so they aren't aligned with the bore. Instead, they are a couple degrees off vertically. So, they are essentially pointed in a slightly different direction than the bore. This scope mounting problem is very common. Thats why adjustable mounts exist.
 These mounts are not a put-it-on-and-shoot item.  In order to get it set up right, theres a couple things that need to be done. First, the scope absolutely needs to be on optical center prior to mounting. Not centered by counting clicks, but by turning it on its axis while looking through it. When the center of the reticle stays in one place while the scope is rotated you've got it centered.  I use an egg box with a cut-out for a cradle to support the scope to do this. It takes a while by the way.  Once its centered, the scope is mounted. You'll probably need to set the rear ring about 1 or 1 1/2 turns up. That will compensate for the "foot low" POI.  Now shoot the gun at a 10 m target, and correct for  windage and elevation using the mount adjustments, not the scope knobs. (NOTE: This will almost certainly require you to remove the scope more than a couple time to correct elevation.)  This will get the scope axis more or less aligned with the axis of the bore. If you don't, when you adjust the scope to correct for elevation using the scope knobs you may end up with diagonal stringing. Once you get your POI where you want it by adjusting the mount, you can make range adjustments using the elevation knob on the scope.
This whole procedure take a good deal of time, but if its done right, you'll be surprised at how accurate your gun really is.

That Powerline scope probably won't last long enough to get it adjusted anyway. It is an airgun scope, but only because it is parallax free at airgun ranges, probably up to about 20 yards. Theres no way it will stand up long to a heavy recoil springer like the 34. You need a scope thats magnum springer rated. The Bushnell Sportsman variable-power AO scopes are a decent cheaper scope that will work well.

[casper_zip]

Good Morning and thanks a Million !!!!!!!    :grin:  :grin:  :grin:

Thanks again for all the wonderful help. I got a pretty good nites sleep last nite, got up, had coffee, breakfast, and read the info on here to help me get my scoped M-34 RWS to shoot to target.

Well, to make a long story short, I set down and carefully viewed my options. It finally dawned on me to raise the back end of the scope with my adjustable mount. I done this, and lo and behold, it didn't take long to get on target. Made some minor adjustments here and there, and now, I can shoot dime size groups till my arm gets tired cocking it.

I am truly amazed of the accuracy and power of the R-34 RWS air rifle. I will, after I rest up some, try different pellets in it. I am going to order a better scope today, too. I know that the Daisy Powerline won't last long. I will probably get the Bushnell Sportsman, unless I can find a good price on the Burris Air gun scope.

Now, after some more practicing, I'm going to use my air rifle to hunt squirrels with. It's much quiter than 22 rifles or 22 handguns. I've even tried the subsonic 22 rimfire loads, and they are still plenty noisy.

Let me hear from you about your favorite pellets, etc. I am awaiting the Crow Magnums, and if they are accurate in my rifle, I know I'll use them, too. Once again, I can't thank you enough for helping me.

Casper_Zip

I think I'll go and shoot some more 1 hole groups with my M-34.

[Carl l.]

Casper-zIP, glad you got the rifle shooting ok. I shoot (Superdome 8.3 grs in mine) and it shoots super. Remember every gun don't shoot the same thing and you might want to try different pellets. I have a Bushnell Sportview 4x on mine and it has held up so far after 3 yrs or better. Have fun and good luck Carl L.

[Dand]

Casper - check out Straight Shooter's web site.  They sell pellet samplers with about 25 (? I think)  pellets each of every brand they sell in a given caliber.  Once you have your gun broke in 500-1000 shots, its a great way to find out which type works best in your gun without ending up with a bundle of pellets you don't like.

[Lawdog]

casper_zip,

Glad to hear you got your problem cured.  As far as Burris scopes go I use them on all of my rifles from air rifles to big bores(.416 Rigby).  Great scopes but like Leupold they aren't exactly cheap.  For your RWS 34 you will need to be sure that the Burris scope you choose has a R/A in the model numbering.  This means it approved for Rimfire and Air Rifle use.  Your 34 could tear apart even the Safari model like I have on my .416 Rigby.  Wouldn't want you to purchase the wrong model and have it break and end up thinking that Burris scopes are no good.  Lawdog