Pistol powder data for 30-06

[Win 1917]

I was just given a pound of AA #5, Unique, 700-x, and 4 pounds of W231. I don't reload for any hadguns right now but I do have a 5 3/4 pound 30-06 that I've been wanting to make up some reduced loads for.

I have data for the Unique but does anyone know what the suitability is of the other powders in 30-06 and where I might be able to find some reliable data? I'll probably give the 700-x to a friend that's a shotshell reloader but the others I'll use if I can.     

[quickdtoo]

Greg Mushial has cast bullet data for 700X and 231 as well as Unique.

Tim

http://www.gmdr.com/lever/lowveldata.htm

[zoner]

try the 231....i'm using it in my 32 Special.....170 gr cast bullet....10 grs 231....no recoil...great fun

[BBF]

I got listings for: Red Dot, Green Dot, PB, SR-7625,Herco, SR-4756,630, 2400,SR-4759 and some fast IMR rifle powders.

[Siskiyou]

Lyman has been a good source for reduced centerfire loads using pistol powder and lead bullets.

[Win 1917]

Thanks for the help guys. I'm going to load some stuff this week and hopefully try them out at the range this weekend. Looking forward to making a plinker out of this gun I have.

[Pop]

I have  QUICKLOAD  so just pm me barrel length, bullet, cartridge overall length and powders you want to use.

[Val]

The Speer manual has a lot of reduced load data. Reduce loads can be dangerous so don't play with them unless you get a proven and tested load such as out of the Speer manual.

[Win 1917]

That's good advice. I'm not really interested in testing the limits of fast burning powders  .

I have a second question. My father in law had a Lyman manual with some data for Unique and 700-x but it's all for cast bullets. Is it ok to use the same data for a comparable weight jacketed bullet or is that a big no-no? My thought is that it wouldn't be ok but I've never loaded with these powders or cast bullets before.

[stimpylu32]

Win

As a rule of thumb , No , the jacketed bullets will have much more drag going down the barrel , raising the pressures way to high , there are a few exceptions to this rule but they are limited mostly to pistol rounds .

stimpy

[Win 1917]

jacketed bullets will have much more drag going down the barrel , raising the pressures way to high

That's exactly what I was thinking, thanks for clearing that up for me. Is the friction/drag difference between the two a function of the copper being less maleable than lead or a larger bearing surface with the jacketed bullets or some combination of those?   

[Lone Star]

The engraving pressure needed to start a jacketed bullet into the leade is far higher than with a cast bullet.  The coefficient of friction between steel and copper is also higher than between steel and lead.  Both account for some if not all of the difference.


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[Win 1917]

Thanks for your help guys. I'm definitely learning some new stuff here. One last question on cast bullets. Why are they often a thousandth larger than jacketed bullets?

[LaOtto222]

When you fire a cast/lead bullet, you want to seal the bore so no gas blows by the bullet. This causes gas cutting and will literally melt lead in your bore. Since lead is softer, you want to make sure it fits tight in the bore so it will pick up on the rifling too. You want the bullet to swedge a little in the bore to ensure a tight fit. The copper jacketed bullets will upset with the higher pressure they are generally shot at fill the bore with out cause undue friction to raise pressures too high, but the jackets being tougher will pick up the rifling even a lower pressures and you do not have to worry about gas cutting. Then there are people that have experimented a lot and just found through trial and error that a lead bullet a little over sized usually shoots better. But too much of a good thing is not better. If the bullet gets to be too big it will not shoot very well and cause leading. Good Luck and good Shooting