Author Topic: Patch and Lube Problems (Read 2081 times)

HWooldridge · « **Reply #30 on:** October 03, 2003, 04:16:47 AM »

I'll make one more post on this thread and then I'm done.

I have been steadily communicating with Dutch Schoulz and would like to hereby recommend to anyone having trouble shooting a front loader to contact him at:

Dutch Schoultz
225 N. Meramec #4
Clayton, MO 63105
http://home.mindspring.com/~dr5x/

The $15 he charges for the info is well worth it...

Although I have 30 years experience with black powder, it is all related to cartridge guns so I have been frustrated a few times with my smokepoles. However, the results I got with the .45 were so impressive that I had to try it with an old .54 Uberti that I could never get to shoot with round balls. Although I am still not using Ballistol, I am now using Dutch's recommendations on patch thickness and powder charge. The good news is that after a few shots settling in and determining what was best, I fired a 3 shot group at 50 yds that can be covered with a nickel. I can't figure out how to post a picture here but I have a .jpg photo if anyone needs to see the proof.

Thanks again to Dutch and anyone else who posted helpful comments. I now have a .54 Hawken that will group well under an inch at 50 yds with a full 80 grs of FFFg. That should kill anything on the continent if I hold it right.

Hollis

WD45 · « **Reply #31 on:** October 03, 2003, 08:30:56 AM »

Jaque,
I was actually eluding to the point that magik gun should be able to shoot both conical and round with the same accuracy and the seems to be so common theory that a deer just will not die if it is not hit with a bullet that weighs less than 350 grains.
Now I am not knocking heavy bullets because they have their place or saying that everybody here thinks that way.
That 72cal RB is a pretty big chunk of lead to begin with and is very effective no doubt.... it is already heavy and punches a big hole in whatever it hits!
The only way to match that in a smaller caliber is to use a heavier than round ball conical But even then there is such a thing as the law of diminishing returns whether in projectile or powder charge...... I am now thinking way to hard here and my head hurts ......... :lol:

Flatlander.54 · « **Reply #32 on:** October 05, 2003, 05:32:15 PM »

I just happen to be the subscriber who ruined a good barrel with some "free" WS oil (green goo). I didnt do my homework and figured what the heck its all gonna be the same, right? WRONG! Trust me fellas....stay away from the GREEN GLYCOL BASED OIL!!!!! IT WILL CORRODE YOUR BARREL IN VERY SHORT ORDER!!!

I got lucky and stumbled into a good trade for a used .50 Hawken that was in almost perfect condition and now NOTHIING goes down the bore on this one but ballistol as far as WS oil goes. And for any of you not familiar with Dutchs system....do yourself a favor and get it. IT WORKS. And do yourself another favor...if Dutch recommends, or warns against something...LISTEN TO HIM. The system works if your able to swallow some pride and accept the fact you just might not know everything there is to know about that smokepole your tryin to work up a load for.

Dutch, your a Modern Marvel in my book. Thanks again. Mike.

tommy4toes · « **Reply #33 on:** October 06, 2003, 03:26:47 AM »

that "green goo" might make a great water pump lubricant in small amounts.....glycol is what they use in antifreeze. Also highly toxic I might add.
I've been using Sta-Lube, seems to work good.

t4t

WD45 · « **Reply #34 on:** October 07, 2003, 02:54:31 AM »

Flatlander,
It is called learning from other peoples mistakes and you are correct.
I have been busting caps for 30+ years and I still learn things about it.
The beautiful thing about forums like this is that if you are thinking of trying something some one out there probably already has. why not gain from some one elses experience.