Author Topic: Extractor won't release case; help (Read 527 times)

peecay · « **on:** October 06, 2003, 09:17:00 AM »

My Encore experience is starting to wear me down. I have a .243 TC barrel I have been trying to make shoot to my expectations. Sunday I finally put together some halfway decent groups with Win. Supreme Nosler 95 gr. (the most expensive factory loads, of course) but suddenly I had trouble removing the fired case. The extractor set the case back from the chamber but applied enough upward pressure that I couldn't remove the case. This didn't happen every shot but about 30% of the time. By repeatedly open and shutting the action I would finally be able to remove the case, although a couple of times I was wishing I had pliers. Then it would be just fine for a couple of shots. Can anyone tell me what is happening here. Thanks

Jagdzeit · « **Reply #1 on:** October 06, 2003, 01:31:31 PM »

You may have been experiencing carbon fouling in the chamber. It will make the cases stick and difficult to eject. Take one of the cases that's tight and see if you can make it stick. Then remove it and get some solvent and a brush and clean the chamber. See if that same case still sticks and if it does, there is another problem.

Stay Safe,
Franz

peecay · « **Reply #2 on:** October 07, 2003, 03:10:58 AM »

It is the extractor that is causing the problem. When it works correctly it pushes the case out of the chamber and then falls down towards the trigger to allow the case to slide out. When it doesn't work right it maintains upward pressure with the tip of the extractor tight in the rim. The body of the case can't get past the extractor tip. Also, when in this condition and I close the action the hammer cannot be cocked nor the trigger pulled.

RandyWakeman · « **Reply #3 on:** October 07, 2003, 04:11:05 AM »

Back to Thompson it goes . . .

peecay · « **Reply #4 on:** October 07, 2003, 06:15:52 AM »

Thanks, I will reclean it and try again.
If that doesn't work I guess I'll be deer hunting with the Sharps, which is probably the right thing for me to do anyway.

peecay · « **Reply #5 on:** October 07, 2003, 08:13:40 AM »

I have 176 rounds fired so far in this gun. Twenty were handloads using Sierra GS 100 gr. which gave me about a 4" group (100 yd.), the rest have all been factory loads, twenty max. of any one variety. Of the factory loads the best groups up to this week came with 70 gr. bullets. I just completed a free-float job by bedding hollow brass sleeves for the forearm screws but have done nothing to the trigger, which certainly needs some work. After a couple hundred more shots I will probably take care of that. I got this rifle for a backpack deer hunt in a high preference point area and am running out of time to get it tuned up.So this last weekend I tried Federal Premium ammo with Sierra Gameking BTSP bullets in 100 gr. (3" group 5" low and 3" right); Winchester Supreme with 100 gr. Power-Point + (group 3 1/2" high 1"v X 1 1/2"h) and Winchester Supreme with 95 gr. Nosler Ballistic Silvertip (groups 1" high, 1st one 1 5/8", second one almost 1/2 min. with 4 shots touching but but 3rd of 5 shots went 5" high and 1" left!!). The extraction problem occured with both Win. ammos, one of which is nickel and one brass cased.
I know these groups are adequate for hunting, but that confidence that comes from knowing exactly where a shot is going to hit is hard to beat when it is time to pull the trigger.
By the way, I wouldn't have known where to start without lurking on this board for the past six months. Thanks to all.