Another Spanish cannon made in Lima, Peru SAN CAYETANO

[cannonmn]

This is one of the three cannons I think came to USNA from New York in 1877 is named SAN CAYETANO, another piece cast by Cubas in 1686. 

The 1925 Catalogue description:  War, Mexican, Gun, Spanish, 18 (sic)-pdr.  Name:  San Cayetano.  Bronze, length 8', bore 4 1/4".  Captured by U.S. Navy from mexicans in California in 1847.  Marks:  Spanish coat of arms, "San Cayetano ANODE 1686.  Another crest; Cubase me fesi."

If you watch for the straight-on view of the cascabel in the slideshow, you can see how somehow it got off-center in casting.

Slideshow linked below.

http://s17.photobucket.com/albums/b62/cannonmn/miscforumsetc/forums17/?action=view&current=cc76f6b5.pbw

[dan610324]

yes the bottom piece of the mold wasnt properly centered when they mounted the mold before the casting
but what I think is even more odd with this piece is that it has such an old pattern ( style ) despite its relatively low age.
the muzzle reinforcement and the cascable is of an older style then the rest of the barrel
especially the cascable

[RocklockI]

wouldnt lima peru pretty much explian any ....flaw that was still aceppted for service ?

these "home grown cannons" are interesting .......a bit crude .....imho, but trying to stay with some ...pattern ....i guess ...?

i'll bet that the mold shifted for whatever reason . the bronze was ready to pour ......so they poured  .

OR the mold shifted after pouring ......im  geussing thats what happened .....  an 'OH SH#ite'

then ....what are you gonna do .....? sure the VOC might not accept it but .....the garrison in lima peru !!!!!

to fight off .....folks ....... folks that dont like you too much  .......and want to ...at best sacrifice your axss to the morning ......or maybe just grilled for breakfest .   

deep in c,mn's info ..... ,,,,there was a passage that asked the garrison comander which type cannon he liked best ?     his answer ....was MORE ,MORE , MORE ,  !

that cannon was probably being chased and readied for service B4 it was even cool ......

jmho ,and i could be wrong .


 

[cannonmn]

I wish I knew more about how the bronze casting was organized in Lima at that time. I'm tempted to think there was a sizeable bronze foundry set up and financed by the Spanish crown.  Most of the output would have been cannons for the Spanish crown.  Lima was apparently the primary source of cannons used in both South and North America until some bronze foundries were set up in Mexico City in the 1770's.  A great many Spanish cannons were also cast in Manila, Philippines, at another major Spanish cannon foundry, and I'm guessing that really got going sometime after 1700.  Many Manila-cast Spanish cannons made their way to Spanish North America prior to the departure of the Spanish in the early 19th C.