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Re: Is this model techn ically correct or not?
« Reply #30 on: October 31, 2009, 08:01:36 AM »
I'm happy to report that the traversing carriage model got here in perfect shape.  The seller had packed each major part separately in inches of bubble wrap and put it all in two large boxes with styro peanuts.  That wasn't an ideal way to do it since the heavy stuff works through the peanuts and finds the side of the box  then tries to break through, but no damage occurred.

The thing is really better than pictured.  First of all, it is huge.  All removeable parts are match-marked and even the match marks (punched dots) are all the same diameter, depth, and are all lined up.  For example, each of the four platform wheels had from one to four punched dots, and each wheel well on the platform had the corresponding number of dots for its particular wheel.  There's no question that this is what I call an "arsenal model."

I've gone ahead and credited the person who put me on to this with appropriate credit in merchandise for the next time he visits the warehouses.   It his second such "finder's fee" from us.  Some of my finders recently have been members of this board.

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Re: Is this model techn ically correct or not?
« Reply #31 on: October 31, 2009, 09:15:15 AM »
Cannonmn,

Will you be posting some fresh photos of this?
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Re: Is this model techn ically correct or not?
« Reply #32 on: October 31, 2009, 09:26:55 AM »
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posting some fresh photos of this?

Hopefully next week, when I can get it into a suitable place to take pix.

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Re: Is this model techn ically correct or not?
« Reply #33 on: October 31, 2009, 09:42:45 AM »
You used the terms "arsenal model" to describe the piece; is the vent drilled to scale, and too small to accommodate a fuze?
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Re: Is this model techn ically correct or not?
« Reply #34 on: October 31, 2009, 10:24:18 AM »
You used the terms "arsenal model" to describe the piece; is the vent drilled to scale, and too small to accommodate a fuze?

If memory serves the auction stated it was not drilled, Arsenal models I believe were made for basic class room training to familiarize

cadets, and gunners to the positions of the crew how the gun was laid etc. all before they let them at the real thing........
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Re: Is this model techn ically correct or not?
« Reply #35 on: October 31, 2009, 01:18:20 PM »
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You used the terms "arsenal model" to describe the piece; is the vent drilled to scale, and too small to accommodate a fuze?

The vent looks like a pinprick since it is to scale in diameter; it is not drilled through though I don't think; there would be no need for that although it would make it just a touch more realistic.  I have here and have seen full models, where everything is modeled exactly to scale, or so it appeared.  Then I've seen models which empahsized the carriage and simplified the barrel which was just there to complete the general appearance, and vice-versa.

One of the finest models I have, in very large scale too, is of a 12-inch seacoast mortar, US, and it is a carriage model.  The carriage is executed in unbelievable detail, all same materials as large one, etc., but the barrel is WOOD.  This model was made at Watertown Arsenal MA, and is listed in their annual report for 1896 or so.

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Re: Is this model techn ically correct or not?
« Reply #36 on: November 02, 2009, 05:26:58 PM »
Correction:  The vent is bored all the way through; I had taken the word of the seller that it wasn't, but now I think he wrote that to keep evil-bay from taking it down as a "shootable" cannon.  It is a very tiny hole, dont' know if it is a no. 64 drill or what, but it is very small.

Here's the slideshow with photos of the details of construction.

http://s17.photobucket.com/albums/b62/cannonmn/miscforumsetc/forums48/?action=view&current=c539c275.pbw