as i pointed out in first post, traded for 2 handi's tuesday, camo lam NEF, cin lam Ultra bull H&R. NEF has tasco3x9x40, 8 shots w/ 100 gr win white box. 1 1/4" group, 100 yds. Ultra has FM 3x9x40, 11 shots, same ammo, same results. Great time had with these guns. I'm hooked for life. Now on lookout for 308 ultra or 45-70 BC
