Obama's speech tonight

[Questor]

I can write a computer program that says things like what he said. Pure political boilerplate. He said nothing except that he's stupid enough to send 100,000 soldiers to Afghanistan for no reason at all.  A lot of people claim he's intelligent, but I say he's an idiot.

[Redtail1949]

I listened intensly to his speech and sat back and thought about all he said. I have come to the conclusion that he is in way over his head. He simply does not understand or have clue about what he is doing.

Throw all the lofty retoric out and boil it down to the basics.

We are going to send plane loads of troops that land at some out of the way airfield gather all their gear hump it to the other end of the field wait for the next plane to unload its troops then taxi down to them and load back up and leave.

Of course that a little bit of an overstatement but that is the gist of it.

Out in 18 months damn what an idiot.

[Swampman]

I never listen to one word he says.  I avoid his image and voice as much as possible.

[victorcharlie]

I never listen to one word he says.  I avoid his image and voice as much as possible.

Yep, me too.....  I refuse to watch him live.

[Questor]

Don't watch him. Listen to the words. It's all B... oh well, I can't use that word here.

[Redhawk1]

I refuse to watch him. He is a layer and B. S. artist. He B.S'.ed his way into the White house and the STUPID people that voted for him believed his every word. Sheeple is all they are. A lot of us were and are smart enough to know crap when we see it.

[KB21]

I never listen to one word he says.  I avoid his image and voice as much as possible.

I can't stand the sight of the man!  I absolutely despise him to no end.  Everytime I see him on TV, I get a rush of anger over the fact that he has the title president of the united states.  I absolutely refuse to watch him.

[Redtail1949]

understand your feelings however i prefer to know my enemy not second hand but what i have seen or heard myself.

[Oldshooter]

He gave that speech at the academy for a reason. He used the cadets as props! He needed people to think he is credible. He does not understand that for him to be there is ridiculous to anyone that understands what that place stands for. The fact that he "leads" this great nation is ridiculous!

[Greenbug]

I never listen to one word he says.  I avoid his image and voice as much as possible.

Yep, me too.....  I refuse to watch him live.

Now, that right there is funny.   

[torpedoman]

I never listen to one word he says.  I avoid his image and voice as much as possible.

Yep, me too.....  I refuse to watch him live.
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Ignoring your enemy will not make him go away it will only strengthen them. study your enemy until you know and understand him that is the way to defeat him.

[briarpatch]

I dont see how anyone could set through one of his lieing sessions. Take the teleprompter away and you have total embarassment.
I do wonder if the people that voted for him still worship his every teleprompted word.

[Squib]

I work nights, missed the whole thing.  something was typed up previously about him sending troops in as a show of force?  up and down a runway?

[slim rem 7]

i think hes sincere..seemed to have a little realness to him tonight..
 but i ll never support a man that believes its alright to kill unborn babies.. i ll never support a man who thinks the constitution as it stands is old and out dated as he seems to.. i ll never support a man who
is dumb enough to want to disarm the people of this country..he s a pawn ,,used by those liberals who took advantage of his being black,an able to be convincing in giving a speech.. i give him one thing though...in desperation he did a fair job..
 there was an underlying desperation in his speech..i fear for him as he may be outliving his usefulness to the liberal cause of socialism an absolute gov t...the lady i saw waiting is i think pulling more strings of power than he..hillary is the true full blooded socialist.. village ,,she calls it..she thinks she knows how to fix the world..just make enough rules so the people are like cattle in a fence ,,waiting to be fed..
 she and he have the right to thier opinion..thats what this country is about..i do not believe hillary believes that..don t under estimate her..shes cool ,,calm an determined to have her way..
 a very fomidable foe of freedom as i define freedom... one nation under god with liberty and justice for all.
 are we that calmly dedicated to defeating her and those backing her..we ll need to be,, as her an her kind are after the whole enchilotta this time.. breaking the 2nd or getting around it is absolutely necessary for her to to achieve her goals..
 if something happened to him..of course the guns an gun owners will be blamed..  the socialist might arrange it ..
 im a chess player an always try to think two or three moves a head..like i said i fear for him..shes already shown shes willing to kill,,to achieve her goals..i hope and wish i was ,,wrong..slim

[Squib]

presidential hit jobs are inside jobs, always.... except saddam hussein (well, americans dug him up at least... his people used the rope)

I think that he is genuine in his beliefs about making a better world.  I really do believe that he is trying to make everything cute and innocent like a toddler's bedroom (wall socket covers, winney-the-pooh paint job on the walls).  I think you might be right about his being naiev.  back in the day the progressives used corporatism ruthlessly- which got the poor men angry.  poor men voted for regulation of trusts and minimum wage- got that and since the government has been using poor men to push for restrictions of freedom.  oh sure government will snuggle up to business and take some power when offered (if the price is right why refuse) but the votes are all about the numbers and that's relative in a direct or republican democracy.  the progressives just keep going from minority group to minority group trying to get all parties co-operating and playing one big sympathy card.  it's not about fairness, it's about breaking the traditional american ideology- leaving the state as the only power to look up to.  blacks are the most used pawns in the politics of this nation.  slavery, 3/5ths compromise, black bullet catchers that would be free if they weren't frontlines and untrained in the civil war (shot up in the first charge), pushed out of their jobs so whites could occupy the vacancies according to the national recovery act in ww1-2 timeframe I think, finally got to vote but got beat down by cops and kkk at the poles, then got affirmative action which perpetuates the poor me/internalized hatred/anti-establishment rage mentalities all at once which will prevent the black sub-culture from ever assimilating (individuals do but the sub-culture is quite strong).  this is why a dreamer like obama is where he is today, and while he may be a softie without the conviction to push a hardcore agenda, he will quietly let his people do it.  they won't bump him off because then all the takeover/nwo conspiracy theorists will be able to say the black man got shot so the white power monger could take over (with biden they might be right)

further emphasis added on this point alone, I'd rather have barack as the face of "pragmaticism" than to have biden and pelosi set loose.... we already know about the clintons.  as long as he is around to soak up attention from the media then the real puppeteers will be staying in his shadow.  let's just hope that he is made a fool and the embarrassment is enough to push back the progressives for a few years time.

[Graybeard]

I never listen to one word he says.  I avoid his image and voice as much as possible.

Well Swampy on that at least we can agree even if not on much else. 

[Graybeard]

Guys you are missing the larger issue here. It all seems to be going over your heads. obama is neither smart nor stupid he is merely reading a script provided to him by his handlers. He's a mouth piece nothing more or less.

There is a cabal of super rich folks out there who are in control and are running this show and in fact this country. Our politicians are in their pocket and every thing they do is calculated to move the world one step closer to the end game this cabal is after. That is a one world government controlled by them. They realize as do I that the world is grossly over populated with humans and sub humans and that half or more of the population really needs to be eliminated. We just don't agree on who that half is. Of course I think they are more inclined to remove around 85% to 90% as opposed to 50%. They want only themselves and their hand picked lackeys and enough peasants to do the work for them and all the rest is superfluous to their needs and you best believe that their needs and desires are all that matters to them.

Until we move beyond the silliness of dumocrap vs republican and realise all of them work for the cabal and not for us we're part of the problem not part of the solution.

[slim rem 7]

   grey beard ,,i think the reason we focus on the public figures is because they are the only ones we can see.. the powers you speak of are hard to focus on ,,as i don t know who these wealthy power mongers you pointed out are...on that if you can or  think its safe to name them ..id be glad to know..then i can know who the real traitors are..my life has not been one where i even picked up forbes magazine as people with that much money and power were so into power an money ,,they held little interest for me..ive no doubt they are there though..
 squib ... you know your 20th century timetables of history..i hope you are right about the elimination of mr. obama.. i just look at what that move would produce an who it would help ..if something happened to him..just as most blacks voted for obama ,because hes black an sells himself pretty well.. they ,,i fear would not comprehend the fact they are being played..hence as a group they might get on any blame bandwagon they were steered to.. the ones in control would carefully turn thier[blacks] anger toward guns an gun owners ..they are a powerful group here in this country now..if the ones greybeard mentioned can make a move to turn them as a group ,,totally against guns.. then the weaker pro gun congressmen will be
the target of the black population,,an fold..i put my self in the power mongers place and if it were me with thier agenda .. this could speed the elimination of the right to bear arms.. the one thing they have to do before they can proceed with the total control  of the masses...
 when lenin finally won in russia,,  he had a dream as unrealistic as it was..one that died with him as stalin proceeded to eliminate the power comrads that he had fought along side.. making him one of the most feared men in history..
 theres evil genius behind all this an i for one don t really know who to look at or ,who that really is..
 but i think hillary knows..she talks village but is willing to do anything to bring down whats left of democracy an she hopes to put herself in power..perhaps even if just a figure head..
  the one thing i think is within these powermongers reach is turning the white population to be totally against gun ownership..then only those who know history and are willing to think the thing through will be progunners..
 the few powerful have always played on the lack of knowledge of the masses..these are the possibilities
i see down the road..but we all know theres more than one way to skin that proverbial cat.. :)this just my thoughts on the subject..slim
 ps the one with ultimate wisdom may in fact allow the masses to suffer.. as as a nation we surely have turned from him..one only needs watch tv ,or walk if you dare through an major city at night .. look an decide if these are god fearing people.. this,, although some much worse than others.

[Squib]

she talks about authenticity in her books... what's authentic about liars attempting to break society down just so the people are reduced to survivalists and then herded around like sheep.  I wonder- worldwide financial collapse, nuclear weaponization picking up speed, oil wars on the horizon, kulturkampf dividing national identity (not just here, all over the western world), loss of manufacturing infrastructure... if something bad happens and if someone really wants to pick america apart it's a great time to succeed.  I agree with your summation of the jesse jackson types going after guns... the memory of Martin Luther King would be brought into it, and then Obama would be the prophet off all the bs that can possibly be put behind one man... gun control, patriot act wiretapping to the extreme, political profiling to supposedly catch the perpetrators but really to shut down dissention (like the memo about missouri guys like me, can't go after decent americans but RIGHT WING EXTREMISTS need to be spyed on because if the un, us and obama handlers want to take guns and administer martial law they gotta start somewhere).

this nation is big now and the people are divided more than ever EXCEPT the civil war.... martial law like wartime would be imminent.  we cannot be the first to see the convenience of such a situation.  hopefully the red shields aren't planning on it though (I think they really will be patient enough to just bring down the firearms industry first and wait a decade or two- look at the consolidation of the gun companies lately- one big train to de-rail)

[slim rem 7]

you say you work at night ..you must have just got home brother.  :)slim
ps. i wonder if my wife has disabled the smiles on this forum.. she trust me ,,but don t want me smilling at the wrong people ,,if you get my drift
 ps well i got 2 out of 3 so i guess she has not..

[Graybeard]

Slim I don't know who the members of the cabal are either. I really wish I did. I can't even pin down any single factor about them other than they are super rich all are billionaires many times over. They are internationalists and really even tho they hold citizenship in some country or countries have no loyalty to country or GOD or anything but power and money.

I'm not convinced they are of any one religion or even that they have a religion other than power/money which I think is to them their religion. The real traitors are the politicians who cater to them and who have sold out to them. The cabal are not traitors in the sense you speak of as they are not at least for the most part American citizens anyway.

I suspect the cabal has members who are by professed faith Christians, muzlims, jews, catholics, buddists and who knows what else. None of that really matters to them tho. They are so super rich that money in and of itself has little real meaning to them. What they seek is power, the power to control the lives of all the rest of us and have us do their bidding. For them we exist only to serve them and they'd like no more of us to exist than are necessary to cater to them and keep them in the style of life they prefer. To them we are like rats in your home and are fit for nothing more than to be exterminated. So long as they can keep the populace side tracked by the two party system and arguments between the parties each pretending to have our best interest in mind then they have us where they want us. TM7 pretends to understand who they are but all he ever does is use other group names for them. I prefer to just keep it simple and call them a cabla which is a group of persons working towardan end that is not in keeping with the best interests of anyone not a part of that group.

[magooch]

If there is a cabal that wants to rule the world, I'm betting that George Sorass and Algore are right there in the middle of it and that is no secret, so I guess that would eliminate the "cabal" aspect.

[Graybeard]

Soros yes I'd say he is likely a member but not Gore, he is just a useful minion for them. He isn't nearly rich or powerful enough to be a member. I'm sure that if the names were listed somewhere for us to read we'd recognize many of them. Most stay in the shadows and pull the strings of those who are in the lime light. That Soros is so vocal causes me to wonder about his position in the cabal. I'd guess him no more than a Lieutenant taking orders from the rest himself. Still I think him rich and powerful enough to hold some position.

I have no clue how they are organized anymore than I understand who they are. Perhaps it's really organized crime that's pulling the strings. Perhaps most are muzlim or perhaps as TM7 thinks most are zionist jews. Personally I think some of all those are members.

[Sourdough]

GB:  Had an interesting conversation with a young man on the train last year.  He said the same thing, he called the power people the Lumanati or something like that.  From what he was saying, it is a world wide organization, well funded and well organized.  They have started their push to get all world governments under their control.  Obama is one of their puppets.   

[Oldshooter]

Until we move beyond the silliness of dumocrap vs republican and realise all of them work for the cabal and not for us we're part of the problem not part of the solution.

Bill, I look at this and think ok, this makes sense, cause there is so much that it would explain. However,
I'm not sure its an organized effort, it may just be that the powerful and rich are pulling the strings and because they think we cannot make intelligent decisions for our selves that they must make em for us. Right or wrong, How in heck does someone do anything about it. This forum you would think would be like minded on a lot of things and pull in the same direction. NOT, People have almost come to blows here just trying to discuss simple issues like "just war".

One can vote and see that  it is futile! One can shoot theorized enemies but that's futile. I don't think there is enough consensus of like minded folk in the world to stop anything like you are speaking of. I'm afraid we are doomed to succumb to this type of threat because of impotency of will if nothing else.


The rich get richer and the poor......... well you know! So it does not matter what really happens in the world they will do well, and our Sons will fight the wars and die. I'm also not sure that "they" intend an organized effort to annihilate us, after all there is the nuclear option and "WE" seem to be able to make that a possibility, if not the ragheads will surely do that eventually.

Bottom line, What in hell can we do about it now?

[Graybeard]

I believe "they" are very organized and have been for over 100 years with the same goals. It's just that now finally their goal is within sight. They don't want to ruin the entire earth for a few centuries the way a nuclear war would so they'd prefer to not go that directly. They want it for their use afterward and an all out nuke war will make most of it uninhabitable for a century or more.

Yes I think it's hopeless and they will suceed as folks just refuse to believe such a thing could possibly be happening around them. It's nice to have one's head in the sand I guess.

[Redtail1949]

well when times get tuff real tuff people will band together as they have for centuries. adversity and hardships real ones can make strange bedfellows.

[Squib]

look at all the medieval crap that happened.. crusades/jihads, slavery, massive armies marching into neighboring kingdoms and killing indescriminately, outright murder could be swept under the rug because there were no cameras or forensic scientists, no toilets, no showers, no books for anyone but the rich, dying at forty or younger... it's got better but the control structure is getting centralized.  if we can keep our values and culture strong, and increase the strength of that identity at the same pace as the powers increase their centrality, then we'll be alright.

inflation happens BUT technology increases rapidly too... so while my money gets weaker and weaker, that big screen I want is gonna get cheaper once the new flat screen comes out (lame analogy but that's how it seems to work to me)

better analogy... a colt saa used to cost an arm and a leg (still expensive somehow?) but I can go buy a military pistol for under $500 if I'm thrifty.. my 500 would have been a fortune in the 1800s but the guns I could buy with it would have been garbage, now they're accurate and sturdy and produced en masse.  guns get the message through right- this is a gun-nut sight.