Author Topic: Mosin Nagant carbine? (Read 7130 times)

1911crazy · « **Reply #30 on:** March 01, 2010, 08:59:44 AM »

I could tell my russian m44 was brand new because the date in the receiver (1944) matched the date on the barrel. It was $114 at the time. Listen to Mikey because he and his brother dialed there's in. Its funny how crude these look and were made but they still shoot so good. I think some of these mosins shoot a tad more accurate than the german 8mm mausers.

S.B. · « **Reply #31 on:** March 01, 2010, 10:40:14 AM »

Quote from: jmayton on September 03, 2009, 06:12:39 AM

Here's mine. Bayonet removed, scope and mount purchased off Ebay (lot's of locktite keeps it dialed in), and I can return everything to original if I want. It shoots about 2-2.5moa with Silver Bear.

Who made your scout mount for this rifle?
Steve

jmayton · « **Reply #32 on:** March 01, 2010, 10:58:44 AM »

I bought it from UTG on EBay. It's a cheap piece of junk, but it works once you apply a liberal amount of loctite. It looks to be the same as the Leapers and a few other ones out there. Same mount, different names.

oldfort · « **Reply #33 on:** March 02, 2010, 11:58:16 AM »

I got into C&R's about 10yrs ago when I retired. I was able to still pick up different Mausers and Mosins for cheap. The 91/30 Hex's may be my favorite, but I have 44's, a 38, and a 91/59 carbines. I have a couple of the Finn Mod 39's. They are my most accurate. The Finns are the real pawn shop sleepers, because they are not as purty as a 91/30 and are longer than the carbines. Mine have pistol grip stocks and the wood has no finish (boiled?).

"Milsurpshooter.Net" is a great frame of reference site for Mosins.

Merle · « **Reply #34 on:** March 06, 2010, 01:23:10 PM »

Quote from: Three44s on February 28, 2010, 07:48:10 PM

+1 on the 91/59!

I don't own any but do have an M38 ....... I have two M44's but like my M38 better as it's lighter ... yes kicks harder but I like the trimer version.

I have no trouble with my M44's and having the bayo removed .... I keep threatening to grind off the lug but have not built up the nerve to yet.

My 91/30 are real shooters ....... but as long as they are ..... they are not good truck rifles.

The only Russian I have handloaded for is my M38 and it shoots very well with Varget pushing the Winchester 150 gr. Power Point (inspite of a .308" bullet diameter) ...... regular hits at 45 yds with original sights on ........ golf balls.

Any old rifle that looks like a fence post shooting the wrong size bullet that hits golf balls ......... is a KEEPER! Wait til I figure out a peep sight and update the trigger!

Three 44s

You might want to look into the MOJO peep sights. They replace the existing rear sights with no gunsmithing required, so you don't permanently alter the gun.

Merle · « **Reply #35 on:** March 06, 2010, 01:30:27 PM »

Quote from: S.B. on March 01, 2010, 10:40:14 AM

Quote from: jmayton on September 03, 2009, 06:12:39 AM
Here's mine. Bayonet removed, scope and mount purchased off Ebay (lot's of locktite keeps it dialed in), and I can return everything to original if I want. It shoots about 2-2.5moa with Silver Bear.

Who made your scout mount for this rifle?
Steve

I bought one from "darrells scout mounts" as best as I can remember the spelling. It cost a bit more, but has been rock-solid for three years now.

zacharoo · « **Reply #36 on:** March 06, 2010, 01:44:53 PM »

Bought a 59 back in 1998 from a tramp miner. Bought rifle sling and 2 sardine cans of ammo. 880 rounds and and 2 boxes of Norma 180 grain soft point 180 grs. for $75 . I love it for hogs. Pull the military and cut powder to 43 gr. and put in a Remington 180 gr. 303 british bullet. MAN WHAT A FLAME THROWER!!

Zacharoo

S.B. · « **Reply #37 on:** March 06, 2010, 01:53:23 PM »

Merle, can you post a link please?
Steve

Merle · « **Reply #38 on:** March 13, 2010, 02:25:25 PM »

Quote from: S.B. on March 06, 2010, 01:53:23 PM

Merle, can you post a link please?
Steve

Sorry, but it went away when my last computer died.
If I remember correctly, he has a forum in Mosin-Nagan.net.
I'll try to find it.

Merle · « **Reply #39 on:** March 13, 2010, 03:14:50 PM »

Here you go, hope this works.
I'm not the most computer literate guy - old dogs & new tricks you know.

http://parallaxscurioandrelicfirearmsforums.yuku.com/forum/view/id/116

Spanky · « **Reply #40 on:** March 13, 2010, 05:34:20 PM »

Check out surplusrifle.com
Go to the forums section and scroll down to sporterizing, you will find out just about everything there is to know about scope mounts for Nagants.

Spanky

TribReady · « **Reply #41 on:** March 13, 2010, 05:54:46 PM »

No shortage of info out there for Mosins.
Parallax Bill and 7.62x54.com I think are the best, imo.
Surplusrifle.com has the best info on sporterizing, like mentioned.

You could build an entire collection just on Mosins and take years to complete with all the varieties

Lon371 · « **Reply #42 on:** March 13, 2010, 11:53:28 PM »

These folks have some scope mounts and stuffs for the Mosin.

http://www.centerfiresystems.com/search.aspx?find=mosin

Lonny

Redneckguy77 · « **Reply #43 on:** March 18, 2010, 03:03:25 PM »

i have a russain m44 and i love it i can hit a gong at 200 yards every time but i have put the monte calo stock and a scope on it. if you have not shot it i recemend getting a recoil pad. without it it kicks like a mule because of the metal buttplate. i put a muzzle brake on mmine also to reduce the recoil and it helps alot. hope you like it because i love mine

jmayton · « **Reply #44 on:** March 19, 2010, 05:13:13 AM »

Quote from: Redneckguy77 on March 18, 2010, 03:03:25 PM

if you have not shot it i recemend getting a recoil pad. without it it kicks like a mule because of the metal buttplate.

Mine has a small recoil pad, but I love taking it off when I'm shooting with others, because they always want to shoot it and I'm more than happy to oblige. So far, no one has fired more than one round without the recoil pad on. It's a lot more recoil than you would expect.

GRIMJIM · « **Reply #45 on:** March 19, 2010, 08:59:38 AM »

I don't know...........I was expecting more recoil from mine the first time I fired it.
My remington 742 in 30-06 is way worse.

TribReady · « **Reply #46 on:** March 19, 2010, 09:09:30 PM »

I may be wrong, but when I fire a WWII era rifle, I expect to know it

You think the citizens of Stalingrad worried about a sore shoulder....hell no.

Shoot iit as is and like it.......it's the way it ought to be

BTW, none...repeat, none of my WWII rifles have anything but the metal buttplate God gave them

Airsporter · « **Reply #47 on:** March 23, 2010, 11:57:36 AM »

Quote from: T.R. on December 01, 2009, 02:32:42 PM

This recent photo shows the deadly efficiency of a patient hunter and well aimed bullet from Mosin Nagant carbine.

The photo was sent to me by a friend in western Nebraska. Truthfully, I've never met this happy hunter.

TR

Where did this guy learn to field dress a deer?

Redneckguy77 · « **Reply #48 on:** April 03, 2010, 06:02:31 PM »

Quote from: Airsporter on March 23, 2010, 11:57:36 AM

Quote from: T.R. on December 01, 2009, 02:32:42 PM

This recent photo shows the deadly efficiency of a patient hunter and well aimed bullet from Mosin Nagant carbine.

The photo was sent to me by a friend in western Nebraska. Truthfully, I've never met this happy hunter.

TR

Where did this guy learn to field dress a deer?

lol

S.B. · « **Reply #49 on:** April 04, 2010, 02:15:55 AM »

Airsporter and Redneckguy7, pretty judgemental are we?
Steve

oldfort · « **Reply #50 on:** April 05, 2010, 01:31:24 PM »

cbxboy · « **Reply #51 on:** April 05, 2010, 02:05:43 PM »

Yup, VERY judgemental on the field dressing.....I was worried about the height of the railing on that deck!

Have a few Mosins and like them all. I shoot all flavors of milsurp and reloads. I have "dialed in" all rifles with bayonet folded. I used to extend bayo but found it to be more dangerous than the actual shooting.

I have a FUN toy at home..........bought a set of 3 M-44 from a guy on the internet. I Knew they were a basket case. One of them has a length issue......not a LEGAL length issue mind you......it was "trimmed back a touch". The Person was going to make a Scout rifle apparently. Had a scout scope mount and the barrel is all of 17" I bet. Recrowned it decent as well

I got it with a broken off bolt handle (assume it was going to get a bent bolt at sometime) and missing a mag well. I of course just HAD to shoot it. Cobbled it together with parts and you think an M-44 throws flames?

I think I singed my shoelaces when I pulled the trigger

No kidding, the ugliest thing you ever have seen.......the barrel is about an inch past the front handguard...of course after I installed one as it was lacking one when I got it. The guy I got them from (3 of them for $60 delivered) bought them from a "storage locker" auction. You bid on it and win what was inside. 3 parted out and wierded up Mosins......I did salvage a nice Hungarian from the pile though!!! (it helped that I had already bought 10 U'fixems from Century, so Hungarian parts already on hand)

Mosins are fun period. Simple, reliable and a fair horsepower for the buck. Don't have a 91/59 but really like my 38 with 180gr slug and reduced H4895. Slow and steady shoots a ringer!

countryrebel · « **Reply #52 on:** April 10, 2010, 09:02:47 PM »

I have both the M44 and the M91. I shoot the M44 with the bayonet folded back and it shoots good. I have not grouped it with it folded out yet. The M44's definitely get some attention when you shoot them.

gandog56 · « **Reply #53 on:** May 19, 2010, 02:46:32 PM »

Out of my 10 Mosin Nagants, 3 are carbines. I have an M38, an M44, and a 91/59.

My favorite of the 3 is my 91/59.

1911crazy · « **Reply #54 on:** May 26, 2010, 07:30:56 AM »

Keep an eye out at www.allansarmory.com , www.aimsurplus.com , www.southernohiogun.com , www.empirearms.com and www.centuryarms.com for the mosin m91/59's, the M44's and the M38's showing up time to time in small amounts. They seem to pop up time to time but they sell out quickly so you have to move fast. Don't forget the 91/30's while we still can get them too. If you see any finnish captured mosins that are priced right i'd jump on them too. But i have seen some bad ones at gun shows that were probably under the snow for a longtime. There a piece of history and were priced like it too.

I guess that most collectors collect a few of one gun like mausers or mosins but i like them all anything that shoots gets my vote....

mrussel · « **Reply #55 on:** June 03, 2010, 06:36:00 PM »

Quote from: blackpowderbill on March 01, 2010, 06:48:06 AM

Yesterday I tried some cast loads in my polish m44. Norma brass, 16.5 gr Unique and a GC'd 173 gr cast bullet sized to .308 (because that is what I had) It shot about 2.5 to 3 inches at 50 yards and with the sights set at 400 meters was dead on.
I have found that putting the bayonet in the fixxed possition takes care of the windage issues. Folks just look at me funny when I am at the range with my bayonet fixxed. Hey you never know when a rouge paper target may attack.

You will know if the rangemaster is a Mosin Nagant collector if instead of calling the range clear and telling people to step away from the shooting bench he calls out "FIX BAYONETTES!!!" waits about 15 seconds then yells "CHARGE!!!"