Well, I haven't bought any yet. From what I have been reading, they may be more trouble to me than I want. What other suggestions? It is for deer in KS, and my wife has had the same problem as the guy from MT. We see her get a good hit, the deer drops, then up and gone, and no blood trail. We have been using Winchester 100gr. blacktip whatevers. I can reload so any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks. DM