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Offline possum6

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Question fo Quikdtoo
« on: December 06, 2009, 01:31:33 PM »
Have you ever done a trigger job on the handi? I've looked and read all the sticky's ?? Just thinking?? is it really hard to do? I've made my living before in metal fab and working around metal. I keep going back to the statement if any doubt don't do it. Don't want to mess-up a good Handi. I've never tinkered on a gun before, just took them apart and cleaned them. :-\
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Re: Question fo Quikdtoo
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2009, 01:52:06 PM »
Only about 3 dozen of em or so!!  ;D If you're not afraid to take things apart, you will do fine, the worst part of doing your first Handi trigger job is getting over the anxiety of doing it, go for it! Download Perklo's info and print it and Raynor's info,  between the two you have everything you need except the tools, the slave pin is easy to make, even a piece of 3/16" wood dowel will work, I use a plexiglas shield to protect the frame, the jig that Perklo uses would work great if you want to make one, but isn't necessary. Hundreds of members here have done their first ever trigger job, it's easier than it looks, just a little daunting at first.  ;)

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Re: Question of Quikdtoo
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2009, 02:19:33 PM »
The biggest help is that slave pin and the best advice is GO SLOW!!!  You really don't need to do much and actually doing too much can cause more problems. (the parts are just surface hardened. Cutting completely thru it will result is a ever changing trigger.

 GOOD news is if you do screw it up, its only about 20bucks and a couple days for the new parts from Brownells and you will be OK again.
(YES this is experience talking  ;D ::) )

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Re: Question fo Quikdtoo
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2009, 03:47:36 PM »
Possum6,
  I just attempted my first one. I followed the instructions and the hardest part of the job was reassembly. The slave pin does help tremendously. Like others have said, Go Slow!  I got inpatient and took too much off the hammer and now have a 6oz trigger if/when the hammer stays cocked. That's about 2 out of every 5 cockings. I have a new hammer on the way....

I'd wish you luck, but you don't need it, it's a easy task.

Thanks, Dinny
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Re: Question fo Quikdtoo
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2009, 01:55:47 PM »
I can't remember which one it is ??? I had it measured on a trigger-pull gage and it pulled 3 1/2 #. Debating on even messing with that one. 
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Re: Question fo Quikdtoo
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2009, 02:01:59 PM »
That's about where I leave mine, much lighter is when it can start going south(getting ligher) real fast.  ;)

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Re: Question fo Quikdtoo
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2009, 02:14:28 PM »
yep.. i'm get'n liter all tha time, cus i'm inna south !!!! ;D :D ;)
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Re: Question of Quikdtoo
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2009, 11:25:06 PM »
That's a good number!! 
 
 What you will find many times is the best you do is to "clean" the trigger. Simply to enhance the break, eliminate or greatly reduce the creep/mushiness of the trigger movement. Lately all I do for the hammer is swipe it with dykem and rub it off with a super hard stone or ceramic. For the trigger, I do polish the front, back and dykem the tip and lightly hit that with that same stone. I am NOT a fan of cutting springs, so I leave them alone. I polish the pins and there corresponding holes very lightly. Basically I am looking for any durrs or irregularities. Reassembling often to check weights. I have gotten 8-9# triggers down to a clean 4-5# with extremely minimal material removal with this method. I cannot say it enough, go slow and check often!! If you have a number of hands and like to tinker with them as Tim, myself and many others here. I will also highly recommend just ordering a couple hammers and triggers to have on hand.

That "ever changing" trigger weight is from cutting/grinding/polishing thru the surface hardening. IMHO its the #1 reason many smiths do not like to do the trigger jobs.

 I played around with the trigger on the 32-20 last week and was able to re-harden the parts and it seemed to work. I heated the piece almost "cherry red". And doused it with used motor oil. After that, if you tried to file them the file just slid over the piece, never getting a "bite". I didn't try to actually shoot the gun, but sat in front of the TV with a snap cap and shot all the "bad guys" on a couple old westerns. The trigger stayed exactly the same. ::)

Good luck,
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Re: Question fo Quikdtoo
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2009, 08:05:58 AM »
I found it was easier than it looked.  The slave pin is a great idea.  Otherwise you will be saying words your mother wouldn't appreciate.
I've got mine down to 3.5 or so, with no creep.  It's smooth as glass now.
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Re: Question fo Quikdtoo
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2009, 03:35:59 PM »
They really aren't hard to do. Use a very fine stone until you get the hang of it.
I've done all my Handi's except one while changing the hammers and removing the transfer bars (Not recommended )

Just sit down at an uncluttered bench and go slow.
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