45/70 - 250gr Barnes TSX

[Coyote Hunter]

But for whackin whitetails, the triple-X's do just fine. And I'll spend a bit extra for that kind of accuracy plus the penetration, peddle expansion, a quick kill is what these do. And that's worth another $.30 per bullet.

MHO

Dave

Someone once ragged on me for my choice to use North Fork bullets, at a buck apiece, in my .45-70 instead of cheaper 25-cent Hornady bullets.  That year I had shot a 6x6 bull elk and a forkhorn mulie using a total of three bullets (the second one on the mulie was totally unnecessary as I discovered after crossing a 200-yard valley to get to it).  Doing the math,  I figured if I used the cheaper Hornady bullets and was equally successful every year, after 3-4 years I would have saved enough money to buy a cheap glass of wine to enhance my dinner out.

What slays me is a lot of people who bitch about bullet costs are smokers.  Don’t know what cigarettes cost these days but people willingly pay the price, which is a LOT more than the cost premium bullets will add to a hunt, and they know they are slowly poisoning themselves with every puff.  Whatever, turns their crank, I guess.  

(BTW, I’m an ex smoker, quit 8 years ago after smoking up to two packs a day for 20 years,  so anyone who thinks I don’t know what it is like to quit is full of you know what.)

[Davemuzz]

Doing the math,  I figured if I used the cheaper Hornady bullets and was equally successful every year, after 3-4 years I would have saved enough money to buy a cheap glass of wine to enhance my dinner out.

Oh....come on now....A good glass of red always goes with Vension, Elk, or anything on 4 hoofs that you have to chase over hill 'n dale.

What slays me is a lot of people who bitch about bullet costs are smokers.

Either smokes, or snuff. And yeah.....I smoked 'em for 15 years too.   

[kiddekop]

FWIW, and just an observation, but I'm surprised that Barnes list only 2 powders for their 250 gr. 45-70 load. VV-N120 and AA-1680.

Neither one of these powders "hang out" in my powder cabinet. Not that I have all powders and all calibers, but I just find it interesting.

Dave

Powders I've never had! I use 2400,imr4831,h4831,imr 4895,sr4759,imr 4198,h335 plus others

[D Garfield]

I shoot a 1874 Pedrisole 45-70, I purhased Lyman mold and make my own 405 grn fn.  I use wheel weights only.  Pushing about 1500fps.. 49grn IMR 3031 ,mag. primers. Shoots 2-3" at 200 with my old eyes.

   Garf

[StrawHat]

heck for the price of a box of those fancy bullets a guy could by a mold and cast his own. Just about every animal on earth has been taken with a 4570 using cast bullets.

I agree with Lloyd.  I have several 45-70s and while I enjoy the 400+ grain bullets I find that a well cast Gould bullet (340 grain HP) over a case of black powder is all I need for whitetail deer.  If I was to go after larger deer I would consider the 405 HB or maybe a 450 grain bullet.  Heck guys have been killing big game with round balls made of lead.

[jro45]

Barnes is a bad word in my book, they fill your barrel full of copper. There for I don't shoot them. Good Luck finding a load for your rifle.

[LONGTOM]

Doing the math,  I figured if I used the cheaper Hornady bullets and was equally successful every year, after 3-4 years I would have saved enough money to buy a cheap glass of wine to enhance my dinner out.

Oh....come on now....A good glass of red always goes with Vension, Elk, or anything on 4 hoofs that you have to chase over hill 'n dale.

What slays me is a lot of people who bitch about bullet costs are smokers.

Either smokes, or snuff. And yeah.....I smoked 'em for 15 years too.   

I could say the same thing about drinking!
Not ragging, just pointing it out.
For that matter we could add playing the lottery also.
It doesn't really harm the body but it is just another waste of ones money.
Of course those that don't hunt/shoot say the same thing about us and what we do.


LONGTOM

[Brithunter]

LFC's are nothing new and in fact were common before the new fangled White powder (smokleless) in thsoe days a cartridge shooting these LFC's were known as express cartridges  and often used HP bullets, lead of course and often during that period Paper Patched too  .

If you read Paul Mathews books on the 45/70 you will find he had good loads for a HP 325 Grain Gould bullet.

[NickSS]

A few years ago I went to Wyoming to hunt antelope with my Shiloh Sharps 45-70.  I had it loaded with 500 gr lead bullets cast 30-1 lead tin and backed with 65 gr of FFG black powder.  I also knew all my sight settings out to 800 yards in increments of 25 yards as I had actually shot it at targets and recorded the settings for my tang sight.  I took my laser range finder with me.  The first day I was only able to get to 324 yards from a nice buck antelope so I dialed in my sight and took careful aim and touched one off. Mr antelope took off for a 30 yard run and keeled over.  When I got to him he was stone dead from a hole that went through both lungs and out the other side.  Two day later I filled my second tag with another buck at a range of only 250 yards it was also a one shot kill.  You really do not need high tech bullets to kill game with a 45-70. Plain lead works just fine and when you make them yourself they are very inexpensive.

[Tonk]

I have given up a long time ago, trying to use lightweight bullets in a big bore rifle! The only thing they are good for, is shooting paper plates at 100 yds. I also don't believe in half of that Barnes marketing either about their bullets, I been tossing my money away for 15 years on their products and haven't ever seen one of their bullets outdue those of Nosler, Swift or Trophy Bonded bullets. Now perhaps these new TSX bullets are better but for me that remains to be seen. Good Luck Shooting folks!~        

[LONGTOM]

300gr HPs have done all I have asked with complete penetration and exit holes.


LONGTOM