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Offline JeffG

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« on: September 17, 2003, 04:59:43 PM »
Tomorrow we're headed to Renegade Ranch to hunt the wild boar.  The first day we are going to try spears.  If that doesn't work out, the bows will come out.  Hurricane Isabelle is threatening to dump some rain on us, (in Michigan!!) but heck, won't that make it more fun?! :D
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« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2003, 07:25:57 PM »
Spears??? I see visions of a passed "Survivor Episode"  :) . What type of "pig stickers" are you using? Seriously, I was toying with the idea of the 'old way' of getting bacon, actually I want to take one with my muzzle loader (at least you will have more than one shot  :wink:  . Should make the "Running of the Bulls in Pampoma" seem like a cake walk :eek: . good luck and post the details.

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« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2003, 05:56:58 AM »
Let us know how your hunt went. Hope you get a few porkers!!

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« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2003, 06:53:50 AM »
throwing or stabbing?
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« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2003, 03:15:20 PM »
We tried thrusting or impaling spears last year, and we didn't get charged, (no dogs) and they were too heavy to throw.  I ground spear blades from old cheap sword blades and fixed them into oak and hickory shafts, and sharpened them knife sharp, and kept them sharp.  They are light, balance well, and with some practice they throw well to about 10 yards.

Long story short, the three of us got three hogs.  Two very nice boars, 350-400 lbs, and 4" tusks, they were very close in size.  Penetration of the spears was awesome!  Both of those kills were modern archery assisted, mine was archery first, spear finish, the other was spear first, archery finish.  The last was a very large sow, and she took some killing, but was an "all spear" kill.  It was very exciting, and enlightening.  The best method we found, was pack hunting.  One hunter was designated to throw, nobody else threw except in mortal danger. We started by jogging ahead of the hog, and cutting it off, challenging it, and letting the thrower take advantage of the quartering away shot when coming from behind.  All participants had a battle worthy spear...The thrower had an assistant that gave the hunter more spears, or his bow as he called for them...It was very demanding, and rewarding.  Pictures will come as soon as I get them!! :D
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« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2003, 07:37:58 PM »
JeffG,
I'd like the Specs on the "pigging" sticks. How long were the blades? Shafts? I think you would find the running of the bulls too tame  :) after that.

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« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2003, 03:13:06 PM »
There are a couple ways to fabricate blades.  The best are old sword blades from junk swords from the QVC or flea markets.  Look for blades in the 24-30 inch length, stainless or carbon.  Take off the handles.  If they are stick tang, a quarter inch bolt, you have to grind a portion of the blade to act as a tang, the bolts are too flimsy. Our wound up with 12-14 inches of blade showing.  Leaf shaped long dagger type blades are the best.  Try to use a stout blade, 3/16 inch or just a lttle thinner, but wide, inch and a half anyway.  The blade cuts well going in, but we realized that it also cuts coming back out, sometimes colliding with a tree or brush, you don't want to pick up a broken blade to try to re-use.... :eek:
     The tangs need to be drilled through to accept two 1/4 inch cross bolts where they are mounted in the wood.  I use Loveless bolts for knifemaking. Grind off excess blades to get that 12" length.  Most of these blades are really hard, so you may need to use a belt sander and a grinding wheel. Once you get the shape you want, get out the propane torch and finish them using Birchwood Casey Plum Brown muzzleloader finish.  Stainless colors well with this mixture.

     For shafts, we started with the idea that we needed 2" oak closet pole and a large welded socket head.  That was way too much.  I tried some smaller stuff, oak, but it was still too much because it had to be tapered on both ends to be light and to throw.  One our group got the idea of using already shaped tool handles, and they are made of hickory.  I went to the hardware store, and got 5 foot hickory garden hoe replacement handles, the ones with the blue painted metal cone on the tool end.

     I sawed off the metal cone, and made a saw cut vertically for the blade, I had to widen out the saw cut with a small double cut rasp to make room for the blade.  Each blade is drilled for through-bolts, small ones, 1/4x24 that go through the handle in two places.  The bolts are recessed into the wood, and the ends of the bolts ground flush.  

     When mounting the blades, set the whole thing in epoxy for added strength.  Then I ground off the butt end "bulb" to finish the taper.  I torched the finish to darken it, and to fire-harden the wood, and used a few coats of linseed oil for finish.  It doesn't get so slippery when wet or bloody. Some of the added touches include soaking leather lace in epoxy, and wrapping the area of the tang over the bolts for strength, and an old look, I engraved my blade with a Dremel, one of the guys flethched his spear with natural barred tukey feathers, and it flies quite well!    Then use an old archery back stop, and practice and practice!  We even warmed up our shoulders with a softball and glove, before going hunting.  

     A lot of people, hunters included can make some harsh judgements about this kind of hunting, but it is really great!!  :D
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« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2003, 06:49:18 AM »
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