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New Barnes 8mm bullet: 160 Grain TSX
« on: December 06, 2009, 05:38:11 PM »
Barnes has announced a new 8mm TSX bullet, a 160 grain TSX. 

This reflects more interest in this caliber.  I have longed for this. Given the extraordinary qualities of the TSX bullet, this 160 grainer will give new life and possibilities to the 8x57.

There was a European all copper bullet, 140 grains, with a muzzle velocity of 3,100 fps. that killed like Thor's hammer, but it has disappeared off the web and I could never locate any of them.  This new Barnes 160 grain TSX  offers possibilities.


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Re: New Barnes 8mm bullet: 160 Grain TSX
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2009, 06:25:12 AM »
Yea, could do wonders in both 8`s. Do you know if they are on the shelves yet?

I`ve always thought a 160-165 grner would be an excellent compromize for both wight and velocity in the smaller 8x57. I can do 3k easly with 150s` and 2850 with the 175s. Should be able to push the 160 close to 3k. Got to check on the BC and SD.

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Re: New Barnes 8mm bullet: 160 Grain TSX
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2009, 09:41:37 AM »
They're not on the shelves yet.  I keep watching though. 

I'm new to doing much loading for the 8x57.  Your results are impressive.

Best.

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Re: New Barnes 8mm bullet: 160 Grain TSX
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2009, 07:56:06 AM »
Thanks..I run my loads over a crony too.

Please remember I`m working with a Rem 700 action. A bit more modern than some of the 98s out there.

I have been impressed with the rifle/cartridge combination.

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Re: New Barnes 8mm bullet: 160 Grain TSX
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2009, 04:59:09 AM »
I surely do hope that all those shooters and hunters who are using those Barnes TSX have good luck with them in the field. I sure been trying mighty hard over 15 years to get quaility shot groups with their bullets out of several of my hunting rifles but No Cigar gents! I tried the X bullet, the so called wonder bullet of the new ages but shot groups went from 1.25-MOA to 3 inches or more. Not to mention bullets that did not open up in the stock tank test.

Then along came the pretty blue bullet by Barnes called the XLT.......Ummmmmmm, you know the bullet that was supposed to give the shooter an extra 200 feet per second out of his rifle. Well, that never happened to this reloader and once again problems with that blue gunk getting into dies etc. Now not to mention they never group worth a hoot either. They were so good in fact, Barnes took them off the market!

I have several boxes of the new TSX bullets down stairs but I am not holding my breath as to weather or not they will in fact function any better then their predecessors in opening up and not just passing through big game animals. I have heard from others that they do have a better chance in grouping small groups but that is to been seen as well. Good Luck folks with your TSX bullets!  ;)  ;D

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Re: New Barnes 8mm bullet: 160 Grain TSX
« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2009, 11:09:50 AM »
Hi Tonk.    Thanks for your response.

Like you I've had mixed experiences  with Barnes "X" bullets.  I have not tried the new TSX bullets yet.

A friend, now deceased, jumped on the X bullet band wagon when they first became popular.  He had the blue bullets too and told me about the increased velocity he was going to get with them.  Unfortunately for Barnes, my friend actually had a chronograph and  those claims of extra muzzle velocity were unsupported.  They were OK  in one of this .270's and one .308, but terrible in his other .270, and god awful in his  .338  Win Mag (the 225 grain X bullets produced sub standard velocities and shotgun pattern like groups)  and god awful in his  30-06 (shotgun pattern size groups, but good velocities, as I recall).  However, the  Barnes 140 grain X bullets attained 3,400 fps and produced dime sized groups in his .300 Win Mag, which also shot well with 180 grain X bullets.   They were also OK in  his old 8x57 milsurp.   I don't know how they performed on game.  Sadly, he passed away before using them on game as I recall.   He bought the 338 Win mag specifically for use as an elk rifle with 225 grain X bullets.   He was so disappointed with the erratic performance of the Barnes X bullets he got rid of the gun.

JJ Hack has written about how well they've worked for him in Africa, primarily in the .308"  165 grain TSX at 2,900 from his 30-06 and the .375 270 grainer in his .375 H&H.  I read the reviews on Midway's Bullets sections and the consumer comments about Barnes TSX bullets  are overwhelmingly positive.

A gun writer in either Rifle or Handloader magazine addressed the issue of hunters/shooters who complained about the field performance  and failures of  Barnes X bullets.  He said Barnes was getting a lot of grief from disillusioned shooters about bullet  failures in the field.  I forget who the writer was, but I remember that he  viciously attacked  the  people who complained about defective Barnes  bullets,  and was sympathetic to the manufacturer of the defective product who sold them for a pretty penny. >:(     I thought it was kind of weird  that he would attack consumers who complained about a flawed product (an expensive product) rather than criticize the company who produced and sold them.  

I read about a European all copper 8mm  bullet weighing 140 grains and getting 3,100 fps.  Kind of like a super .270.  :)   Their web site was full their product line in most calibers and glowing testimonials about how well their bullets performed.  I was really impressed with that, but the web site has disappeared and I've found no other reference to these products.  A .323" 140 grain all copper bullet at 3,100 fps really got me going I'm here to tell you.    

I would like to fool around with the .323" 160 TSX  but using it on game is another thing.  I'll keep you posed if I get any further info.

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Re: New Barnes 8mm bullet: 160 Grain TSX
« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2009, 01:17:20 PM »
  I'll never know how well they work for me, as i wouldn't put one through my rifles bbl.!

  It's a proven fact that you just shouldn't put any "unbanded" mono bullet through any firearm with a thin bbl., especially if they have a soldered rib connected to it, and mine does!  (the pict. i saw of them, they were unbanded)

  It's not a big deal to me anyway, as NP's have a better "working spread of FPS", and can be used in any bbl...  Best part is, they ALWAYS work.

  DM

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Re: New Barnes 8mm bullet: 160 Grain TSX
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2009, 01:49:39 PM »
I surely do hope that all those shooters and hunters who are using those Barnes TSX have good luck with them in the field. I sure been trying mighty hard over 15 years to get quaility shot groups with their bullets out of several of my hunting rifles but No Cigar gents! I tried the X bullet, the so called wonder bullet of the new ages but shot groups went from 1.25-MOA to 3 inches or more. Not to mention bullets that did not open up in the stock tank test.

Then along came the pretty blue bullet by Barnes called the XLT.......Ummmmmmm, you know the bullet that was supposed to give the shooter an extra 200 feet per second out of his rifle. Well, that never happened to this reloader and once again problems with that blue gunk getting into dies etc. Now not to mention they never group worth a hoot either. They were so good in fact, Barnes took them off the market!

I have several boxes of the new TSX bullets down stairs but I am not holding my breath as to weather or not they will in fact function any better then their predecessors in opening up and not just passing through big game animals. I have heard from others that they do have a better chance in grouping small groups but that is to been seen as well. Good Luck folks with your TSX bullets!  ;)  ;D

 ;D Too late, I already have those good results from the TSX bullets. Which has nothing to do with the past designs BTW, no more than the Hor. GMX has to do with an interlock or a Vega with a Siverado. Like you, the original X did not do so well with accuracy or terminal results & I hate those blue bullets, I still have some of those 100gr. 25cal. , but not mad enough at anyone to sell them. The TSX is a totally different animal.
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Re: New Barnes 8mm bullet: 160 Grain TSX
« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2009, 01:59:55 PM »
Hi Nomo.  Glad to hear your input on the TSX.  I'm anxious to try them and I hope they work as good as you and JJ say they do.  Thanks for your comments.

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Re: New Barnes 8mm bullet: 160 Grain TSX
« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2010, 02:12:02 PM »
Update: According to Midway, these new bullets are "available" for shipment.

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