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very early "H&R Sportsman", what do I have?
« on: December 30, 2009, 03:45:33 PM »
Hi guys, I will need some help from you learned collectible H&R guys. I just checked the gunlocker. My H&R Sportsman revolver has a 2 digit serial number, that's right, under 100, and it has no letter prefix, just 2 little numbers under the grip. It says "Pat applied for" on the cylinder and ".22 Long Rifle ctg." on the right side of the barrel, and the name "H&R Sportsman" on the left side of the barrel. What do I have? Any idea on value? Thanks....<><....:)

looks like it might be a Variation 1, first year of production, 1932.......
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Re: very early "H&R Sportsman", what do I have?
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2009, 07:18:51 AM »
Holy crap!  A two digit serial number?!  man.. I thought my four digit Marlin '93 (#35**) and my 999 Sporty (SN# B50**) was low.. 

If you could get some pics posted I might be able to help.   Otherwise 32 Magnum or jim ritchie will probably have to help you.


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Re: very early "H&R Sportsman", what do I have?
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2009, 11:38:22 AM »
Thanks for the reply buddy, I am not good with pictures but it looks similar to yours except it has a round barrel with a solid raised "rib". IIRC on that rib is the name and address of the company (H&R). The front sight is a half moon brass blade. It has a one piece checkered walnut grip that is held on by a single screw that goes through the lower rear of the back of the grip backstrap.  I always thought it was a nine shot like my brother in laws but I had better check, it might be a seven shot. I usually shoot my rifles and shotguns nowadays and just keep this in the gunlocker. I will have to check with my brother in law and see what the serial number is on the H&R he got from his father (my father in law). I wonder if that one is an early one as well? Mine has a solid flat faced hammer which strikes a spring loaded firing pin housed within the frame. The .22  H&R revolver he got had a solid firing "pin" as part of the hammer....<><....:)
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Re: very early "H&R Sportsman", what do I have?
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2009, 06:15:22 PM »
Wish I could help. I know just enough to get myself in trouble!.
By no means an expert. What little I do know of the Sportsman models, is thanks to 32 magnum.
He is the man when it comes to H&R. Especially early model Sportsman pieces!!
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Re: very early "H&R Sportsman", what do I have?
« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2010, 07:49:40 AM »
MSP - You DO HAVE one of the 1st Model 1st Variations - most likely made in 1931 before the 1932 catalogue hit the shelves.  These earliest pieces have fixed/non-adjustable half circle front sights, windage adjustable rear sights, round finger grips on the barrel latch, "key-hole" barrels, cylinder release bar on right side of quill, one-piece wooden grip and nine-shot cylinders (if your's is a 7 shot, please provide the cartridge stamping on the right side of the barrel).  I have s/n 604 with all those attributes.  I also have s/n 1431 which is also a 1st M, 1st Var. but by that s/n the front sights had been made height adjustable with an elevation screw through the front of the rib.  I would really apprciate having the full serial number of your piece for research.  The lowest previous s/n I've seen was in the mid 200's. 
As for low serial numbers, I have a 1st Model 1st Variation American Double Action with s/n 14 - it is in mint condition.
p.s. Knight Model 999 s/n B50xx was made in 1941.
Jim Hauff,  H&R Collector

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Re: very early "H&R Sportsman", what do I have?
« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2010, 11:50:57 AM »
Thanks for the help and information 32 Magnum. Check your PM's for some private info....<><....:)
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Re: very early "H&R Sportsman", what do I have?
« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2010, 12:45:27 PM »
Probably a well made hand fitted gun!

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Re: very early "H&R Sportsman", what do I have?
« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2010, 02:24:41 PM »
yes, the quality, finish, and fit is outstanding, much better than currently mass manufactured guns....<><....:)
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