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Offline teamnelson

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Murders Fell 10 Percent in First Half of 2009, FBI Says
« on: December 21, 2009, 07:28:33 AM »
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,580777,00.html

Its being reported on all news outlets ... given there was no new gun legislation, and the DC judgment was in favor of personal ownership, no wonder they're scratching their heads. You mean there is no correlation between legal gun ownership and violence?  :o
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Re: Murders Fell 10 Percent in First Half of 2009, FBI Says
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2009, 07:47:39 AM »
There is a correlation: More people with guns to defend themselves translates to less crime.
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Re: Murders Fell 10 Percent in First Half of 2009, FBI Says
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2009, 07:54:31 AM »
Sanity and reason make no real arguments for these folk. its how they "feeeeel" about it that counts.

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Re: Murders Fell 10 Percent in First Half of 2009, FBI Says
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2009, 09:05:51 AM »
Look at all the people that bought guns after Obama was elected.  An armed society is a polite society.  The higher the odds of a victim being armed, the less likely they are to become a victim.
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Re: Murders Fell 10 Percent in First Half of 2009, FBI Says
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2009, 02:08:19 PM »
Scumbag criminals can't find ammo at Walmart because some rednecks keep driving around at 0600 when the truck arrives to buy it all up....thus no ammo to thug in up in the inner cities and that equates to a lower murder rate.

Been that way for a solid year now.


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Re: Murders Fell 10 Percent in First Half of 2009, FBI Says
« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2009, 03:14:44 AM »
Kan't kill nobody...aint got no boolits ???

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Re: Murders Fell 10 Percent in First Half of 2009, FBI Says
« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2009, 03:45:36 AM »
No, no, you guys have it all wrong; it's because of the Messiah the Obamanation.  He has set a kinder gentler tone.  Just ask the folks at Fort Hood, or the police in Lakewood and Tacoma, Washington.  Peace is at hand.
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Re: Murders Fell 10 Percent in First Half of 2009, FBI Says
« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2009, 07:37:45 AM »
I wondewr if the murder rate is down across the board or if it is just down in certain areas? Several years ago a Minnesota newspaper listed all the murders in Minneapolis for the previous year. for about 75% ofthem listed I thought they were a good thing. Gang related and drug dealer related murders were a good thing in my opinion. Basically took 2 scumbags off the street in one shot.
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Re: Murders Fell 10 Percent in First Half of 2009, FBI Says
« Reply #8 on: December 24, 2009, 12:27:07 PM »
Quote from: Questor on December 21, 2009, 07:47:39 AM
There is a correlation: More people with guns to defend themselves translates to less crime.

Less crime perhaps, but most murders are crimes of passion, and I believe the murderers were just less passionate during the first half of the year ::) Murders are going to fluctuate from time to time and year to year.  I don't think their study means squat!
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Re: Murders Fell 10 Percent in First Half of 2009, FBI Says
« Reply #9 on: December 24, 2009, 01:02:28 PM »
Quote from: nw_hunter on December 24, 2009, 12:27:07 PM
Quote from: Questor on December 21, 2009, 07:47:39 AM
There is a correlation: More people with guns to defend themselves translates to less crime.

Less crime perhaps, but most murders are crimes of passion, and I believe the murderers were just less passionate during the first half of the year ::) Murders are going to fluctuate from time to time and year to year.  I don't think their study means squat!

Yes they do nw_hunter. Just like hurricanes in hurricane season.
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Re: Murders Fell 10 Percent in First Half of 2009, FBI Says
« Reply #10 on: December 24, 2009, 01:41:34 PM »
Quote from: nw_hunter on December 24, 2009, 12:27:07 PM
Quote from: Questor on December 21, 2009, 07:47:39 AM
There is a correlation: More people with guns to defend themselves translates to less crime.

Less crime perhaps, but most murders are crimes of passion, and I believe the murderers were just less passionate during the first half of the year ::) Murders are going to fluctuate from time to time and year to year.  I don't think their study means squat!

Here's another correlation: When legal concealed carry goes up, violent crime goes down, but, property crime also goes up. Some researchers (Lott & Mustard, 1997) attribute the increase in property crimes to criminals in shall-issue counties substituting into crimes where covertness and stealth is usually a great concern, which lowers the probability of facing an armed citizen.
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