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.270 Barnes Triple X 110 grain bullet
« on: November 22, 2009, 11:25:52 AM »
Double Tap Ammo lists a .270 Win load with the 110 Barnes TSX bullet at 3,465 fps from a 22" barrel.  A pretty formidable load.  1.7" high at 100 yards , 1.6" high at 200 yds. and 2.7" low at 300, with 1,777 ft. lbs. of energy. 

Has anyone any experience with this bullet in the 270 Win?


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Re: .270 Barnes Triple X 110 grain bullet
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2009, 02:06:02 PM »
I would be a little concerned using this bullet on deer up close at those speeds.
Not really questioning the construction so much as I would be worried about just punching a hole through it with little damage being done.
I would check with Barnes about the use of their bullet at those speeds for close range.
I have thought about trying them also.
The numbers are impressive for longer range.
I just have that one worry.
I have seen light for caliber/animal bullets before that did zip right through with a very small exit hole and an almost non existent blood trail.
They may be just fine.
I just don't know.



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Re: .270 Barnes Triple X 110 grain bullet
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2009, 04:50:43 PM »
The faster the velocity, the faster the bullet will open up.  If anything, the bullet would explode on impact, not pass through without opening up.  When velocity drops, bullets open up slower, when velocities increase, bullets expand faster.  That is why premium bullets are favored for high velocity cartridges (.300 WM, .257 Weatherby, etc...).

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Re: .270 Barnes Triple X 110 grain bullet
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2009, 04:52:02 PM »
I think that you should be fine.  At those velocities, you don't need to worry about the bullets not opening up.  They should expand to the max, and being that they are monolithic, you will most likely get a complete pass through on a broadside shot. 

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Re: .270 Barnes Triple X 110 grain bullet
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2009, 04:54:31 PM »
Federal also loads this bullet at an advertized 3,400 fps in the .270 Win and 3,500 fps in the 270 WSM.

There was an article in one of the shooting mags that is online and it spoke favorably of the performance of this combo.  3,400 fps is really zipping along. It's almost like getting .257 Weatherby performance in the plain vanilla .270.

An all copper 110 grain that retains 95% of its weight is heavier than a 130 Grain Nosler Partition that retains 60% of its weight.  With the Barnes all copper bullets, lighter bullets will do the job of heavier lead bullets. I'm kind of anxious to try out some of these Barnes 110 grain TSX  .277's.

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Re: .270 Barnes Triple X 110 grain bullet
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2009, 05:02:32 PM »
I have used the 110 grn in the 270 wsm and the 130 grn in the 300 wsm on whitetail and mule deer. I have been extremely happy with the result.
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Re: .270 Barnes Triple X 110 grain bullet
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2009, 05:31:52 PM »
The faster the velocity, the faster the bullet will open up.  If anything, the bullet would explode on impact, not pass through without opening up.  When velocity drops, bullets open up slower, when velocities increase, bullets expand faster.  That is why premium bullets are favored for high velocity cartridges (.300 WM, .257 Weatherby, etc...).

Tis true of conventional designs, but not the Barnes TSX/TTSX!!
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Re: .270 Barnes Triple X 110 grain bullet
« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2009, 03:30:57 AM »
I would be a little concerned using this bullet on deer up close at those speeds.
Not really questioning the construction so much as I would be worried about just punching a hole through it with little damage being done.


I wouldn’t worry too much, although I would prefer the TTSX or MRX.  To date my son-in-law and I have used Barnes TTSX and MRX to take 5 animals – three antelope and two mulies.  In every case the damage has been significant.  One animal made it a few yards, the others were down where they stood.

.308 Win/168g TTSX/2682fps/125 yards = antelope straight down
.257 Bob/100g TTSX/3300+fps/300 yards = antelope down in 20 yards
.30-06/168g TTSX/2901fps/75 yards = antelope straight down
.300 WM/180g MRX/2982fps/200 yards = two mule deer straight down

Bullet expansion with these bullets is very fast.  All exited so I have no pics.  I will definitely continue to use them.
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Re: .270 Barnes Triple X 110 grain bullet
« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2009, 04:41:36 PM »
The faster the velocity, the faster the bullet will open up.  If anything, the bullet would explode on impact, not pass through without opening up.  When velocity drops, bullets open up slower, when velocities increase, bullets expand faster.  That is why premium bullets are favored for high velocity cartridges (.300 WM, .257 Weatherby, etc...).

Tis true of conventional designs, but not the Barnes TSX/TTSX!!

Da!  Barnes are considered premium, that's why I made that statement.

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Re: .270 Barnes Triple X 110 grain bullet
« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2009, 05:24:05 PM »
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I would be a little concerned using this bullet on deer up close at those speeds.
Not really questioning the construction so much as I would be worried about just punching a hole through it with little damage being done.


The only reason I stated this is that in the past I have seen bullets at ultra velocities pass through with little damage on close in shots.

It has happened!
This was in a 264 mag.
I don't recall the bullet weight or make.
I don't know it they were premium bullets or not, I just know that it was a perfect shot and I helped track a wounded deer a very long ways with very little blood trail.
When we found the deer some 4 hours latter it was dead with an exit hole almost the same size as the entrance hole.
When the deer was capped the bullet had passed through between 2 ribs on entry and hit 1 rib on the way out.
The shooter had used the same bullets before only loaded to a lower velocity and never had that problem before.
He has since gone back to his original loading with complete success.
May have been a fluke, who knows.
I was just making a comment as to what had happened to him when he tried to increase to a max load.


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Re: .270 Barnes Triple X 110 grain bullet
« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2009, 03:07:28 AM »
The faster the velocity, the faster the bullet will open up.  If anything, the bullet would explode on impact, not pass through without opening up.  When velocity drops, bullets open up slower, when velocities increase, bullets expand faster.  That is why premium bullets are favored for high velocity cartridges (.300 WM, .257 Weatherby, etc...).

Tis true of conventional designs, but not the Barnes TSX/TTSX!!

Da!  Barnes are considered premium, that's why I made that statement.

Da!  The subject is the Barnes TSX, Happy Thanksgiving!!
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Re: .270 Barnes Triple X 110 grain bullet
« Reply #11 on: November 28, 2009, 09:22:00 AM »
I took a doe at 347 yards with that round last year, she went 20 yards.........great round for long range shooting..........

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Re: .270 Barnes Triple X 110 grain bullet
« Reply #12 on: November 28, 2009, 09:24:02 AM »
forgot, mine was 110 TTSX WSM 270............over 3500 FPS

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Re: .270 Barnes Triple X 110 grain bullet
« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2010, 03:26:05 AM »
I believe you have it backwards.Bullets travaling at high speeds[close shots], open up faster, than bullets going slower. ???
Longtom, speed is what begins the mushroom,how much speed is what governs how fast it begins.I just dont see where,or,how  your experience can happen.pan. :)