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Strangely no mention of rifles in calibers .338 and above
« on: September 27, 2009, 04:37:43 AM »
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Re: Strangely no mention of rifles in calibers .338 and above
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2009, 05:32:39 AM »
A friend that was raised on a homestead just south of Fairbanks, AK, just spent a week visiting me. In one conversation about guns he said all they used on the homestead was a 30/06. Used it for everything, bears, moose and anything else that needed killing. He did not think a fellow needed anything bigger for anything in Alaska.

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Re: Strangely no mention of rifles in calibers .338 and above
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2009, 05:36:40 AM »
OK Pastorp. I'll refine my note by saying there wasn't any mention of rifles under .338 either.
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Re: Strangely no mention of rifles in calibers .338 and above
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2009, 05:41:50 AM »
30-06 with the correct bullet, good placement and within it's effective range will kill a girz no problem. 200 or 220 grain bullet is good (not great) big bear medicine.
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Re: Strangely no mention of rifles in calibers .338 and above
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2009, 07:48:54 AM »
As everyone knows I carry a 30-06 year round.  But in the summer I also carry a .338 Win Mag, reason?  While a 30-06 will kill a Grizzly, it is considered the minimum.  And if it is getting up close and personal I want the best advantage I can get. 

Bears are not hard to kill, but extreamlly hard to put down right now.  When fatally shot they have been known to attack and kill the shooter, before expiring.  The Grizzly I shot two weeks ago was shot through both lungs first shot.  It still ran 45 yards before my second shot rolled it over.

Now Black Bears are smaller, but they also have the same tennasity for life as their bigger brother the Grizzly.  Here a 30-06 is more than adequate.  A 30-30, or a .35 Rem, will also work well.
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Re: Strangely no mention of rifles in calibers .338 and above
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2009, 08:14:07 AM »
 sourdough please post some stories of your bear hunting... man i get excited just reading about hunting one of them big grizzes...let me know where you post if you decide to post stories of your hunts as it can get lost in the forum..at least for me.
ps i didn t say i wanted an invitation up for a hunt,,now.. just want to read about it..  ;D
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Re: Strangely no mention of rifles in calibers .338 and above
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2009, 08:19:13 AM »
Slim:  I have one more hunting trip planned this year.  That does not count any spur of the moment day trips. 

In November I am scheduled to go on a Muzzle Loader hunt for Moose in the Wood River Control Use Area.  We will be using Snow Machines, and camping out in the snow.  Expecting temps anywhere from zero to 40 below.  We will be about 50 miles from the highway, in the Alaska Range.  South of Fairbanks, some beautiful country.
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Re: Strangely no mention of rifles in calibers .338 and above
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2009, 03:23:15 PM »
This is an excerpt from the Alaska Department of Fish and Game website (http://www.wc.adfg.state.ak.us/index.cfm?adfg=hunting.firearms) about this.

"Big Magnums Not Needed

The rifle you bring hunting should be one with which you are comfortable. Because of the presence of brown and grizzly bears, many hunters have been convinced that a .300, .338, .375, or .416 magnum is needed for personal protection and to take large Alaska game. This is simply not true. The recoil and noise of these large cartridges is unpleasant at best and plainly painful to many shooters. It is very difficult to concentrate on shot placement when your brain and body remembers the unpleasant recoil and noise which occurs when you pull the trigger on one of the big magnums.

The two most common complaints of professional Alaska guides are hunters who are not in good physical condition and hunters who cannot accurately shoot their rifles. Because these hunters do not practice enough they cannot shoot accurately enough. They miss their best chance at taking their dream animal or worse yet, they wound and lose an animal. Most experienced guides prefer that a hunter come to camp with a .270 or .30-06 rifle they can shoot well rather than a shiny new magnum that has been fired just enough to get sighted-in. If you are going to hunt brown bear on the Alaska Peninsula or Kodiak Island, a .30-06 loaded with 200- or 220-grain NoslerŪ or similar premium bullet will do the job with good shot placement. Only consider using a .300, .338 or larger magnum if you can shoot it as well as you can the .30-06. "
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Re: Strangely no mention of rifles in calibers .338 and above
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2010, 10:05:35 AM »
I will admit it took me several years and a good fifty pounds before I could handle a .338 well.  Today it is nothing to shoot for me.  A 30-06 is more like a toy, I think no more of shooting it than most people think about shooting a .223.  But when I first started shooting big guns they kicked my backside good.

Today after years of experience and conditioning I can shoot large magnum rifles, but i do not recommend any one shoot them that is not already familure with them.  You have to work your self into them gradual.  Otherwise they hurt.

If you think a 30-06  is abusive don't think about shooting a .338 Win Mag or anything bigger.
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Re: Strangely no mention of rifles in calibers .338 and above
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Re: Strangely no mention of rifles in calibers .338 and above
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2010, 05:38:43 AM »
While there I logged in and added my vote for the .338 Win Mag.  Had not visited that site in over a month.
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