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Offline trotterlg

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Steyr M-95
« on: March 11, 2010, 04:30:15 PM »
Does anyone know what kind of pressures these actions are usable to?  I have one I have done up in 20-06, (yes, 20-06) and was wondering if I can load it to 25-06 pressures or if I need to stay with the 30-06 pressures.  I have fired it and things work well, primers look good and it extracts easily, does not show any signs of bad things.  Larry



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Re: Steyr M-95
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2010, 06:56:18 PM »
Looks like a very long hand grenade to me if you bump it up to 06 pressures.
I would not trust an M-95 action to hold up to it for long.
Would love to see a pic of how you modified the bolt face.
and extractor. All in all a neat looking rifle though and a
good way to solve the ammo supply problem. I would have went to a
less powerful cartridge though. I like the idea of an M-95 in 38-55 or similar
cartridge.
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Re: Steyr M-95
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2010, 07:02:18 PM »
you can always work up in 1/4 gr steps until you see pressure signs.
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Re: Steyr M-95
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2010, 07:39:30 PM »
Bolt face was a piece of cake, so was the extractor.  The bolt face I just cut back and did it like ;you would bush a fireing pin but did the whole diameter of the bolt head.  The extractor I just cut off and silvered on a new claw, it works great and feeds from the little clip really well.  Below is the bolt face before I cut out all the places you need to cut out.  I am up to 60gr of H 1000 and things are still good, second picture, left cartridge shows the 60gr load, right one is 57gr of the same.  Larry



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Re: Steyr M-95
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2010, 02:47:54 PM »
There is a guy on another forum that put an sks pinned barrel into the m95 receiver.  Now its in 7,62x39.  I have one and the 8mmx56mm nazi ammo to go with it but i never shot it yet.
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Re: Steyr M-95
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2010, 10:09:59 PM »
Other then the magazine, isn't it the same basic action as the Greek, which morphed into the M.S. series of sporting rifles, chambered in some pretty hot numbers?
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Re: Steyr M-95
« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2010, 02:12:28 AM »
Quote from: GatCat on March 12, 2010, 10:09:59 PM
Other then the magazine, isn't it the same basic action as the Greek, which morphed into the M.S. series of sporting rifles, chambered in some pretty hot numbers?
Mark

Nope totally different action. The Austrian M-95 is a straight pull and NOT A TURN BOLT. Your confusing the Dutch M95 Mannlicher which is actually a Mdl 1892 Mannlicher but Holland didn't adopt it until 1895 so called it the M95. It made sense to them  ;).

As for the sporting rifles Mannlicher churned them out along side the Military rifles so nope the Greek has nothing to do with the sporting rifles. Conflicts happening at the time would have had more bearing on civilian sporting production. Steyr produced some rifles for the Boers during the 2nd Boer War of 1898-1902 and there were other conflicts going on around the world during this period.
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Re: Steyr M-95
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2010, 03:42:21 AM »
I have shot a couple of hundred of the nazi 8x56. They kick pretty stiff, like 180 grain 30'06. I have a hundred commercial soft-points, boxer primed, havent shot them yet.

Nice job trotter, clever. 

Do these actions ever smooth up? Mine still feels out of the box stiff after several hundred rounds.

 
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Re: Steyr M-95
« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2010, 12:46:06 PM »
Probably never, from the looks of mine it had about 10,000 throught it and it is still stiff.  Larry
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Re: Steyr M-95
« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2010, 01:11:17 AM »
It's stiff due to wear. Remember these rifles are well over 70 years old and have been through WW1. Everyone thinks about France when the talk about WW1 but these rifles saw service in the Balkans and the fighting down there was just as terrible.

When opening the bolt try putting some downwards pressure on the bolt handle and you might find it's a bit easier. Also draw back the cocking piece first as you will surprised at how much that relieves the pressure of working the bolt  ;).
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Re: Steyr M-95
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2010, 06:24:11 AM »
Quote from: Brithunter on March 15, 2010, 01:11:17 AM

When opening the bolt try putting some downwards pressure on the bolt handle and you might find it's a bit easier. Also draw back the cocking piece first as you will surprised at how much that relieves the pressure of working the bolt  ;).
That would seem to take the "speed" out of a straight pull.  I got one from SOG and found that to open the bolt I had to set the butt on the floor and stamp on the bolt handle with my boot. I disassembled it, cleaned out the old caked grease, re-lubed and reassembled it and worked the action many times. It did ease up quite a bit but was still too hard to operate from the shoulder. I returned it to SOG along with the ammo I had ordered for it.
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Re: Steyr M-95
« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2010, 07:15:26 AM »
On my straight pull bolt swiss k31 i put moly on the bolt body and cams so the reset is much easier when the bolt is pulled back.  If we read into the swiss specs they recommend using moly as a lube too.  The swiss bolt feels awesome now. I may take my M95 straight bolt apart soon and moly that up too.

On my turn bolt rifles I lube the lugs, the bolt body and the trigger sear with moly also.  These bolts will free up and operate much smoother too.
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Re: Steyr M-95
« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2010, 01:53:09 PM »
I lubed my bolt inside with Moly engine assembly grease, and it is managable.  It is just the cock on opening part that makes it stiff I think.  Larry
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Re: Steyr M-95
« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2010, 12:38:39 PM »
trotterlg,
Personally, I would stay at 'original 30-06' pressures or less.  These things are old.  Germans rechambered some to 8x57 in WWII, but they are basically WWI tech.  I have been tempted to buy some of these as project guns but am a bit put off by reports of 'stiff actions.'  What's your take?
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Re: Steyr M-95
« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2010, 07:36:52 PM »
The action works well, but the hammer cocks on opening, so the effort to pull back the bolt is all up front, once the bolt is cocked things are good.  You just need to understand what is happening.  I have no problem doing it, but there is more effort involved than lifting a bolt handle.  Larry
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Re: Steyr M-95
« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2010, 12:52:12 PM »
Good to hear.  Guess I got turned off a bit at last gun show and haven't followed up.  Dealer had a table full of them at like $75 and I asked if he had any clips.  He played dumb, as in 'No, you don't need clips.'  I said 'Well that's true, if you want a single shot bolt gun.'  At that, he just turned away. Gotta love it!
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