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Offline Redtail1949

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Has the leopard changed its spots?
« on: January 29, 2010, 04:44:42 PM »
agreeing to this meeting by obama with the Republicans was a brilliant move on his part. the republicans felt they they must show that they are not the party of no. in this one move obama is trying to turn the tables on them, smart real smart. had he refused to meet he would have come off badly the republicans were hoping he would refuse to meet with them. then they felt it would be perfect for them to put all their talking points out directly to him on camera. well that did not work so well. hensarling of texas came out made his move and obama made him look just like the fool he was. obama looked reasonable and willing to work together and hensarling looked like the paid assassin. he simply turned the tables on them quite easily i might add.

obama and his minions saw and heard the people that much is for sure. now in the spirit of bipartisanship and a real desire to work out the problems of this nation obama has put his hand out. or has he?

I do not believe he has but as far as it goes it was a brilliant political maneuver. now he will meet on an on going basis listening intently telling all he will take back their ideas to the whitehouse for further study. he will claim if they have merit he will seriouly consider them. Or will he?

Can a leopard change its spots?

Remember it is an expert at camoflage making other not see what is right in front of them until its too late. That is just what he is doing. that is why he said they all must lower the rethoric.. quieten the tone. he knows that if the anger continues the democrats are out in November for sure. so he is using this chance to lower the tone he must or thet are done for. he has no intentions of changing only making others think he is willing. just watch the far left they will follow his lead and do the same. all in an effort to placate the people that are so angry now. if the republicans attack him too harshly while he has the hand out most people will start to conclude its the Republicans that do not want to work together not the democrats.

this will calm the angry voices or so that is the plan. he will meet and direct his side to meet and discuss various items maybe even say they have reach agreements in certain areas...all along never intending to follow anything to a conclusion. the real purpose is to get by the November elections without total destruction of the democrats.

so if he can put on a camoflage that will fool the the people into believing they are indeed trying to address the problems most of the angry people will go home and be smugly satisfied that they brought about change in the atmosphere of washington. they will soon enough recognize that they have been fooled again shortly after the elections but by that time it will be too late. they will be in the grasp of the leopard and can not struggle free. the spots on that leopard will suddenly reappear.

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Re: Has the leopard changed its spots?
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2010, 04:54:44 PM »
This is all "repackaging" the obama agenda. They are not going to pass anything. Then when the fall elections roll around, the dems are going to say, see.....we let the republicans in and all we got was nothin for it. Nothing will change. Its all a fake-out to hood wink the American people to thinking Obama is going to bring the repumkinlins into the policy process.
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Re: Has the leopard changed its spots?
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2010, 09:26:14 PM »
so he stays hard left, and everyone else hates him and he's out in 2012, or he goes to the middle and then the moderates hate him or don't but the right and left hate him, and he's out.


how can he NOT get booted after all he's done?  hey, he shouldn't have got in at all so nothing is certain but I really do see his image tarnished badly enough to end his career, and image is about all he had going for him.

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Re: Has the leopard changed its spots?
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2010, 01:38:32 AM »
so he stays hard left, and everyone else hates him and he's out in 2012, or he goes to the middle and then the moderates hate him or don't but the right and left hate him, and he's out.


how can he NOT get booted after all he's done?  hey, he shouldn't have got in at all so nothing is certain but I really do see his image tarnished badly enough to end his career, and image is about all he had going for him.

He's not 'hard left'. His (former) left supporters like Howard Dean, Cindy Sheehan, etc. are even more P.O.'d at him than the Rush/Hannity/Beck crowd. They think he reneged on his promises to end the war, close Guantanamo, and provide public-option health care.
He's not left or right, he's not even for himself because if he keeps alienating people he'll be out on his butt on the sidewalk in a few short years.
Which begs the questions - WHO IS HE FOR? WHAT is his real agenda?  Somebody is pulling his strings, for sure.
And things are not looking good.  Storm clouds coming up fast.  Middle class getting squeezed out of existence, working people terrified of layoffs, businesses closing everywhere, trillions of dollars stolen or wasted, trillions in gov't debt, states going broke, illegals pouring across the borders.  

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Re: Has the leopard changed its spots?
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2010, 03:46:22 AM »
A good friend of mine ran for the MO Senate last year and lost. He told me the only way anyone can get elected is to lie about things you know you can't do. He said he would never run again because he would not lie to get elected. That tells me something about our elected officials.  I am sure Obama knew he could not end the war or close Guantanamo but was willing to say he was just to get people to vote for him. If he honestly thought he could do those things he is much less intelligent than he looks.

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Re: Has the leopard changed its spots?
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2010, 06:51:07 AM »
He's a Post Turtle.   Doesn't belong where he is, Someone else got him there, and he doesn't know what to do now that he is there.

History will show that his Presidency will be about as effective as that of Jimmy Carter.   Who, by the way, led us into higher unemployment figures and worse economy than we are suffering now.  Check the records if you don't believe me.  Who remembers the gas lines and odd/even license plate rationing?   Unemployment during the Carter administration was over10% and inflation was at 15%.  Let's not forget the failed hostage rescue debacle under Jimmy.   

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Re: Has the leopard changed its spots?
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2010, 07:08:23 AM »
I don't get it. I don't see anything like a repackaging of the Obama agenda. His agenda was the same in state of the union as it was in his campaign. The next day somebody yelled at him and he came out with some lame statements like "I am not an ideologue".

It will be very interesting to see whether he gets the message and moves to the center. If he does that, then he will be re-elected. If he doesn't he's got three years of being a lame duck. Right now he needs the republicans a lot more than they need him. He is in a weak position.

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Re: Has the leopard changed its spots?
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2010, 12:08:26 AM »
  He went to the Republicans and said; "You must prove you're not the party-of-no, so here's what we do..I will offer the same impossible demands I have for the past year..then, if you refuse them, you're the party-of-no !"
    Anybody who falls for that old shell game, should have their head examined.
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Re: Has the leopard changed its spots?
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2010, 03:42:17 AM »
obama may not be bad.. hes just believing in an promoting a different america than i believe in..
 so he never gets my vote.god help my kind if he succeeds.. better free even if i have to die for the cause ,,than red or facist and living as slaves to big govt..jmo slim

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Re: Has the leopard changed its spots?
« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2010, 05:35:16 PM »
questor:

he is the same now as he was in the beginning...the only thing is most people are listening now to excactly what he says.

rio grande:

i have enjoyed the cat fighting in the Democratic Party. One thing is for sure the "Progressives " will eat their young. lol

rdmallory;

that is the truth..if they are honest not a chance in hell if they lie cheat and steal we seem to bring them to office on our shoulders cheering all the way.

ironglow:

a perfect example of just how stupid the republicans are is Hensarlings  "LOOK at Me I Am So Smart" question or was it the life and times of the Republican Party Statment. Obama with his simple replies to such a childish effort made him look the buffoon he is. That man was psing for the future campin ads he is going to run and it was soooo obvious. When they get the chance they say they had been denied (talk with the President) they all came to pose for the camera. they were not interested in solving any problem nor presenting any alternatives only campaining just like Obama. Had they really addresed the issuses and been sincere they would have come out on top with the people. now they are lumped in with the other side and will probably getting voted out of office..i can only hope.

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Re: Has the leopard changed its spots?
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2010, 03:18:06 PM »
A good friend of mine ran for the MO Senate last year and lost. He told me the only way anyone can get elected is to lie about things you know you can't do. He said he would never run again because he would not lie to get elected. That tells me something about our elected officials.  I am sure Obama knew he could not end the war or close Guantanamo but was willing to say he was just to get people to vote for him. If he honestly thought he could do those things he is much less intelligent than he looks.

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thats true to get elected you have to tell people what they want to hear . tell them the truth and you dont stand a chance