Savage 24D, 22mag/20ga. regulation?

[OB One]

Anyone know how to regulate the barrels on a Savage 24D series M, 22mag/20ga combo?
The 20 ga w/#6 shot is printing 5 to 6 inches low from the 22mag at 15 to 25 yards.  I think thats way off for squirrel hunting.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
OB

[pastorp]

If there is a way to regulate the 24 savages I'm not aware of it. I just always set the sights where the rifle barrel shot to the sights and if I needed to compensitaded for the shotgun barrel. 

Regards,

[woodchukhntr]

I've had a few 24's over the years and don't know of a way to regulate them.  I just kepr selling, buying and trading them until iwas satisfied.  They have ranged from tright on to 12" low and off to one side.  I had a .357/20 ga. 24V that was horrible.  Too bad because i really wanted to keep it!  A current .22/.410 is probably as far off as yours, but that won't keep me from using it, although at the next gun show I might sell it and look for another.

I believe the D's have brazed barrels, and that would preclude any regulation unless you had a gunsmith separate them and shim them before rebrazing them.  You had better have a large pocketbook if you try this, and there would be no guarantee. There would be a better chance with the models that have a clamp holding the barrels at the muzzle, since the holes in the clamp could be enlarged and shims could be applied.

Mu current 24's are:

.22/.410
.22/20 ga.
.22 mag./20 Ga.
.223/20 ga.
.30-30/20 ga.

[S.B.]

I don't own a 24D but there is nothing on a Stevens 22/410 to regulate the barrels? Maybe try a different ammo?
Steve

[billy_56081]

I would guess if you tried a lighter faster load in the rifle and a heavier load in the sotgun it may be closer

[OB One]

Thanks for the replies folks.  woodchukhntr has given me an idea.  On this 24 D, the barrels are separate and only joined at the muzzle.  So I see I can take the clamp off, enlarge it and place different sized shims in it, to maybe get the regulation I want.  Wish me luck.
OB

PS;   I have heard where others have said they changed the regulation by spreading the barrels and sticking a nickel in between them.  This sort of bends the 22mag barrel and changes the poi.  They can then regulate it by sliding the nickel back and forth between the barrels as there is a taper between the barrels.  Any one heard of this?

[trotterlg]

Putting a shim between the barrels will bring the rifle barrel down or the shotgun barrel up, probably a fair solution.  I find that when sighting in my 30-30 over 20 gauge, as the 30-30 barrel heats up expands and then shoots progressively lower.  These are fickel guns, not ment for shooting at the range, guess you just need to know how your gun acts and use it like it is.  Larry

[billy_56081]

I still think you need to try a heavier slower load in the shotgun barrel. The more the load recoils and the longer it is in the barrel the higher it will print.

[OB One]

I still think you need to try a heavier slower load in the shotgun barrel. The more the load recoils and the longer it is in the barrel the higher it will print.

Billy do you mean more shot, bigger shot or more powder?  How much bigger would one want for squirrels than #6?  I haven't been able to find #6 shot in a 3 inch load.  Now please remember, I'm talking 5 to 6 inches low at 15 to 25 yards.
Thanks OB

[billy_56081]

I'm talking about using a heavier by weight load say if your using a 3/4 ounce load go to a 1 ounce load. The longer time a load is going down the barrel as the muzzle recoils upward generally prints higher.

[Hank08]

OB1, Didn't say if you were trying to use the the rear sight when shooting the shotgun but if you were that's your problem.  When shooting the shotgun your eye is your rear sight and where your face is on the stock will determine where the shotgun shoots.  If it's shooting low then your face and eye have to be a little higher on the stock.  Some practice should have it shooting where you are looking.
H08

[OB One]

Hi Hank;  36 years ago I used to hunt with the same gun using open sights.  Used to do what you said.  Don't remember having a problem.  Now I'm 73 and have cataracts in both eyes.  Need a little help in the vision department.  So I epoxied a Redfield red dot on it as I couldn't find a mount to fit it on, properly.  Yes it's on there solidly.  After missing several squirrels at really short range,  I went to the range with the bench rest to see just how far off it was.  That's when I found out the 20 ga was 5 to 6 inches low at 15 to 25 yards.  I would like this gun to be specifically set up and used for squirrels at short ranges.  That's the reason for the regulation question.  Think I will insert a wooden wedge between the barrels and move it back and forth till I get the regulation I want.  Will go to the range again after that and will let you all know what the results are.

Thanks you all, for all the help.
OB

[Hank08]

OBone, I'm 78 and had the cataracs removed from my eyes about a yr. ago.  I can see my sights now as well as ever.  It only took a few minutes for the Dr. to remove them, believe me it was worth it.  I took 1st place in a long range ,iron sighted ,off hand match last Sat.
Get it done ,you won't be sorry.  I have a 22lr/20 ga. and a 22 mag/410, killed a lot of squirrels with them before moving to Utah where there aren't any, darn it, I love to hunt squirrels and that's the perfect gun for it.
H08

[S.B.]

Might I suggest a myplon or nylon wedge instead of wooden one? Wood will in time deteriorate and you'd be back in the same boat.
Steve

[OB One]

Might I suggest a myplon or nylon wedge instead of wooden one? Wood will in time deteriorate and you'd be back in the same boat.
Steve

Good idea.  I  have some UMHW (sp) a hard white plastic that might work.
Thanks OB

PS;  Hank.  Glad your doing so well.  My cataract surgeries are scheduled and I'm really looking forward to them.