Glass bed vangard?

[mrcooper]

Has any one done it and did it help the acc? I have a vanguard in 300 weatherby syn stocked and am getting 1&1/4" gropes I think it should do better also if I do glass the action I will free float the barrel, so ifn any body has already done that would you let me know ifn it helped?

[valvesinmyhead]

I would look into one of these first.
http://www.cabelas.com/catalog/search.cmd?form_state=searchForm&N=0&fsch=true&Ntk=AllProducts&Ntt=vanguard+stock&x=0&y=0&WTz_l=Header%3BSearch-All+Products

[parkergunshop]

Valves,
He already has a synthetic stock, the Bell & Carson Medalist Stock  costs $152.00 it would  actually need to be glas bedded at a cost of around $35.00 if you do it yourself.
So why not spend $152.00 less and just glas bed the existing synthetic stock, can't hurt and may address the over 1 inch groups and get it down to MOA with no other cost added for a new stock?
 
 
 

[valvesinmyhead]

Well I am sure the syn stock he has does not have the CNC alum bedding block like the B&C stock has.

[parkergunshop]

Valves,
There are different models of Bell and Carson Stocks, the cheapest model without the full length Aluminum Bedding Block costs between $150 and 170, the Medalist model with the full block is over $200.
Just put the cheapest Bell and Carson on a 1903 Springfield High Number Action made in 1918 with a Remington replacement barrel made in 1944, glas bedded it and it averages .6 tenths of an inch groups at 100 yards.
The stock with the Aluminum bedding block should be glas bedded also for best accuracy.
Nothing is magic about the Aluminum bedding block except that it makes the action are more rigid and less apt to flex with the heavy magnum calibers where it is needed.
 
 

[Lloyd Smale]

ive bedded two. It helped the 300 and the 257 did about the same.

[mrcooper]

thanks Lloyd

[OleFreak]

I had accuracy problems with a 270 Win. in a synthetic stocked Vangard, terrible trigger and very sensitive to the barrel warming up.  A local benchrest guy put in an aluminum bedding block, glassed it, and slicked the trigger making an excellent shooter of an otherwise factory gun.  He only charged $125 but this was bout twenty years ago too.

[Crow Juice]

I have a 300WBY in a B&C Medalist Stock ,glass bedded with a Timney Trigger set @ 2.6 #. Well it shoots 3/4"-1" groups with flat base bullets and 1 1/8" -1 1/2" with boat tails . This is acceptable accuracy but not as good as expected and I have tried about 6 different bullets . I have settled on 180gr Rem Core Lokt's , H1000,and Rem Mag primers. Boat Tails and Weatherby cartridges ; there may be some kind of issue with the freebore.   

[tuck2]

I have glass bed the action, free floated the barrel, and adjusted the trigger on a number of different brands of bolt action wood stock rifles. I got improved accuracy with most of them but none were less accurate .  My most improved accuracy came from developing hand loaded ammo for a rifle.

[billyjack]

I have  a vanguard in .270 with 20 inch barrel and all i did was free float the barrel and now it shoots three shot group that you can cover with a half dollar ,good enough for hunting rifle.

[Brithunter]

Just a thought here ......................................................... how long with the glass bedding stay adhered to the plastic stock?

[Bart Solo]

I have another thought.  Doesn't glass bedding void your warranty with Weatherby? 

I don't know exactly what kind of "plastic" stock your Weatherby has, but if I read my manual correctly it specifically says you shouldn't glass bed the action. Weatherby claims that the Vanguard is designed to have pressure on the barrel the full length of the stock.  In that way barrel vibrations are reduced.  The manual specifically tells you how to replace the action in the stock.  It requires that you pull the action into place hard and that you replace the trigger guard screws in a specific order thus assuring full contact between the barrel and the stock.

A synthetic barrel channel is much more consistent than a wood barrel channel.   Weatherby claims the barrel can be made to contact the stock it's full length given the consistency of the barrel channel.   In essence they are claiming their manufacturing process is so good they are essentially bedding the the full lenght of the barrelled action, which is one of the well known ways to bed a rifle. If you believe their  bedding is as good as glass bedding, I guess a lot of craftsmen would disagree. 

By the way that is one of the reasons for a new stock.  You can keep your old one and if something breaks put the action on the old stock and send to send it to Weatherby.
Note: edited after addional thought.