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Offline jlwilliams

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smooth bore pistols?
« on: February 16, 2010, 03:07:59 AM »
  There are exapmles of smooth bore revolvers in the Buffalo Bill Museum, they were used for trick shooting in performances like the Wild West Shows.  Now with modern laws, a smooth bore pistol would be a regulated item subject to a tax stamp like a short barreled shotgun or the like.  My question is, do people in the cowboy action sport pony up the money and get smooth bore six guns and make the shot cartridges so they can do the trick shooting? throw a coin or  a ball in the air and hip shoot it.

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« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2010, 08:16:33 AM »
Nope! CAS is not about 'trick shooting' at all. CAS competition is about speed and accuracy using weapons from the 19th century. 8) Shot shells in pistols would be worthless to a CAS participant.

( I say "accuracy" very much tongue in cheek...considering the size and distance of CAS targets )
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Re: smooth bore pistols?
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2010, 04:03:56 AM »
  Isn't tossing a coin in the air and shooting it a feat of "speed and accuracy"?

  I can see how the modern regulations concearning smooth bore pistols may outweigh the fun of shooting sixguns at thrown targets.  If you're saying that there is no interest in it at all, I have to wonder why.  The shot in question is a classic of American shooting folklore, from even before the days of the black and white movies we have all seen it done in.  Again, there are 19th century examples of smoothbore pistols.  Exhibition  shooting was a popular form of entertainment long before even the Buffalo Bill's Wild West show.  Similar shows had been touring America for decades before Bill Cody opened his.

  By modern definiton, a smooth bore shot revolver (Say a 44 or 45) would be defined as an AOW (any other weapon) and would be subject to registartaion similar to a full auto, or a short barrelled rifle, only subject to a much lower priced tax stamp.  $5 instead of the $200 required for the SBR or the FA.  The regulatory process would be onerous, but the cost not so much so.

  Again, if there is no interest in the 'coin toss shot'  I'm surprised.  The danger of performing it with a solid projectile would make it a no-go, but a shot revolver would be as safe as any shotgun.

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« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2010, 08:30:57 AM »
  Isn't tossing a coin in the air and shooting it a feat of "speed and accuracy"?

 

Actually, no it isn't. When using shot shells it's on a par with shooting clay discs thrown by a machine. BOOOORRRING! What CAS participants do is on a whole other level....Think IPSC with 19th century guns. Take a look here: http://www.sassnet.com/Shooters-Handbook-001A.php Browse around, check out the rules/regs, see what you thnk.....you'll probably have a whole different take on CAS after looking it over. 8)
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Re: smooth bore pistols?
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2010, 10:08:50 AM »
The only coin toss shots I have seen have been performed by professionals. They use single projecties. There is a version of CAS that shoots balloons from horse back.  They use blanks.  The same for fast draw exibition shooters who shoot balloons. 

The Taurus Judge shoots a 410 shotshell or a 45 LC bullet out of a rifled barrel.  Not much call for smoothbore pistols.