Author Topic: 45lc load question (Read 1120 times)

dangerranger · « **on:** February 02, 2010, 08:59:47 AM »

I just bought a 45 BC carbine. and would like to develop a hog load for it. Im thinking of 300gr or larger. heres the question. if I seat the bullit out slightly beyond the MAX over all length for my weakest revolvers [ old colts and italian copys] do you think Ill be able to still chamber them in the handi? or is it a try and see afair? I once by mistake seated some out a little far and they would cycle through my marlin 94 but would bind up any of my revolvers.[ I didnt have the rugers at the time.] if it works Id have a way to keep any stout loads out of the revolvers. what do you guys think? DR

gstewart44 · « **Reply #1 on:** February 02, 2010, 09:21:49 AM »

If it doesn't engage the lands you may be ok. I shoot a lot of different 44mag loads and the easiest way I found to keep the loads easily identifiable was with a marker on the bottom of the brass. Black for my BP loads and red for the stout, long loads. That way they were easily recognized at the time of loading to prevent any mistakes.

44 Man · « **Reply #2 on:** February 02, 2010, 10:40:08 AM »

I think you will find it will depend a lot on the shape of the bullet. If it's a WFN you may reach the rifleing with it but I don't think you would with a normal SWC or RFN. It's a good idea loading them long to keep them out of your revolver. You could also use nickled brass for one load or the other. Enjoy that gun. Got to get me one of them .45's! 44 Man

dpe.ahoy · « **Reply #3 on:** February 02, 2010, 11:41:18 AM »

Both are great suggestions. I would include using different bullets as well. Use only a certain type of bullet in the hot loads, I would suggest WFN, WLN, or SWC and not use them in any other load. OR, ream the chamber to 454 and use them for hogs. DP

cwlongshot · « **Reply #4 on:** February 02, 2010, 01:05:39 PM »

Try the SIERRA 300 SP bullet. Its too long for use in the colt SAA revolver, making it safer for the hot loads as it cannot fit in the gun! (Well it fits, but its too long to be able to shoot it.)

I also have a number of SAA revolvers and would cry to mistakenly shoot a hot load thru one!!

CW

dangerranger · « **Reply #5 on:** February 02, 2010, 09:44:48 PM »

thanks guys, thats what I wanted to hear. Ive had my kids several times reach into the ammo cabnet and grab the wrong rimfire ammo. no harm done but I hate to see them plinking with target grade ammo. if it were just me I can tell from the bulit shapes but with others it could prevent problems.

44 Man · « **Reply #6 on:** February 04, 2010, 01:16:20 AM »

Bought me a box of target grade rimfire ammo once. It was for testing the accuracy of any new gun I bought. Never bought a second box though. It really didn't matter how it shot with that ammo as I always going to use Wally World bulk Federal or Remington in all my guns anyway. Yeah, I wouldn't want the kids plinking with that ammo at the price of it! 44 Man

gcrank1 · « **Reply #7 on:** February 04, 2010, 06:38:54 AM »

Yeah, +1 that! I really dont want to know that my rifle(s) like Eley 10X (ignorance may be bliss).

45-70.gov · « **Reply #8 on:** February 04, 2010, 06:49:15 AM »

my nickel plated 44mags are for the ruger and handi rifle

NO NICKEL IN THE SMITHS

dangerranger · « **Reply #9 on:** February 04, 2010, 09:29:44 AM »

Both of my target rimfires shoot fed auto match pretty well, except for the ocational flyer. just enough to screw up a good target. so I practice with that and shoot match grade only in matches. DR

cwlongshot · « **Reply #10 on:** February 04, 2010, 02:21:50 PM »

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Both of my target rimfires shoot fed auto match pretty well, except for the occasional flyer. just enough to screw up a good target. so I practice with that and shoot match grade only in matches. DR

I have shot allot of different 22RF ammo and guns threw the years shooting NRA bullseye competition.
Currently I shoot tow different pistols, a Benelli MP95 with a 90 trigger group. It shoots CCI STD as well or better then EVERYTHING its shot!!

I also shoot a Walther OSP 2000 in 22Short. Its designed to shoot RWS 25, but this stuff went thru the roof in the past couple years, so I changed the fire control to a 1000g GSP 22LR trigger and now shoot CCI STD. It doesn't shoot as well as the R25, but its 1/4 the cost of it!! Because of the 1000G trigger I can also shoot, short HV ammo, which is still below the 1200fps ceiling. It shoots fairly well also.

RWS Rifle, WOLF match target, Federal 711 and 711B, CCI pistol match have all been tried.

CW

dangerranger · « **Reply #11 on:** February 04, 2010, 10:08:27 PM »

both of the remingtons shoot Fed 719 very well. its advertised at just over 1200fps but in my guns it comes in at just under. its not that expencive but hard to find. DR

Doublebass73 · « **Reply #12 on:** February 05, 2010, 04:02:12 AM »

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Try the SIERRA 300 SP bullet. Its too long for use in the colt SAA revolver, making it safer for the hot loads as it cannot fit in the gun! (Well it fits, but its too long to be able to shoot it.)

CW,

What powder do you like with this bullet? I just picked up a box of those bullets yesterday. I have some 2400 and
IMR-4227 I'm going to try. I can't find any large pistol magnum primers anywhere locally so I may have to wait before I get to load any up.

gcrank1 · « **Reply #13 on:** February 05, 2010, 04:46:44 AM »

Ive never had to use a 'magnum' primer in any of my 2400 or IMR4227 loads in anything.

Doublebass73 · « **Reply #14 on:** February 05, 2010, 06:07:04 AM »

I'm at work so I don't have the load data in front of me buf if I remember correctly the data I have for the Sierra 300 grain bullet calls for magnum primers but I could be wrong.

wreckhog · « **Reply #15 on:** February 05, 2010, 09:37:08 AM »

Probably does with H110

Doublebass73 · « **Reply #16 on:** February 05, 2010, 01:56:49 PM »

I just looked it up, the Sierra manual calls for magnum primers with the 300 grain JSP using 2400 or IMR-4227 in both the Ruger/T-C data and the rifle data. They do have Ruger/T-C data that shows Unique (which I have some of) using a standard LP primer.

cwlongshot · « **Reply #17 on:** February 07, 2010, 11:57:56 AM »

Quote from: Doublebass 73 link=topic=198287.msg 1099018718#msg 1099018718 date=1265382132

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Try the SIERRA 300 SP bullet. Its too long for use in the colt SAA revolver, making it safer for the hot loads as it cannot fit in the gun! (Well it fits, but its too long to be able to shoot it.)

CW,

What powder do you like with this bullet? I just picked up a box of those bullets yesterday. I have some 2400 and
IMR-4227 I'm going to try. I can't find any large pistol magnum primers anywhere locally so I may have to wait before I get to load any up.

I like 296 with my top loads. I do like MAG primers for 2400, but I haven't needed it for the 4227.

CW

guns-o-fun · « **Reply #18 on:** February 12, 2010, 02:52:13 AM »

Dangerranger - why not make an ultra inexpensive chamber length gauge with a 45 LC case and some threaded stock. I have made them with a quarter inch toggle bolt and threaded a quarter inch hole for it. It moves loosely enough to easily screw the bullet up to the lands. Take several measurements and average - use this as a loose guide. I have found that most of my handi chambers are on the long side. I am sure there is something in the FAQs about doing this. If you have a Dremel and a cut-off wheel, you can easily cut the expansion slots for the bullet. This way, you can determine an approximate length to lands for any particular bullet you want to use. Just give yourself a little margin for safety to avoid pinching the bullet.

Doublebass73 · « **Reply #19 on:** February 12, 2010, 03:43:33 AM »

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I like 296 with my top loads. I do like MAG primers for 2400, but I haven't needed it for the 4227.

Thanks for the info, I'll probably try some 4227 first then.

wtroger · « **Reply #20 on:** February 12, 2010, 08:24:00 AM »

I run the max load listed for Ruger / TC of IMR4227 in my 45 colt rifle. IT is extremely accurate and kills the ferral hogs we have around here instantly. But I only shoot a 260 grain Sierra. The IMR4227 is slow powder for a pistol but works very well in the rifle with the longer barrel.