By the time I started shooting Silhouette, David Tubb had left the sport, so I never seen him shoot. About my second Az State match, Tony Tello was on my left and Lee O'Neil was on my right, that was someting to see, Tony is always in the thick of it, and Lee was just about at the top of his game, he ran 10 pigs, and for the long run, I think he had 25 or 30, and this was in Yuma, where it's fairly windy. The first California St. match that I was at Jeff Boyer and Jim Feren shot a 35 apiece, but that was for second and third, because Mr. Dadian shot a 37. At a monthy match in Tucson a year or so ago, Jeff Boyer and I started on Turkeys, he shot 4 and ended up with a 33/40 at the end of the match, that was fun to watch. I was in Ridgway this year when Sanchez shot that 39.