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.327 Federal magnum in a rifle?
« on: February 18, 2010, 10:15:18 AM »
I'm anxious to get some ammo in this round and start experimenting with it in a singleshot rifle ......

But is anyone interested in this cartridge in a different rifle? 



Like perhaps a Marlin levergun?  Or similar?   :)

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Re: .327 Federal magnum in a rifle?
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2010, 10:57:31 AM »
I sometimes think the 327 Federal Magnum, is an answer looking for a question.

However, in a quality single shot rifle, it might be fun to play with.

What single shot rifle do you have in mind?

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Re: .327 Federal magnum in a rifle?
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2010, 11:04:57 AM »
We already have the .357 Magnum & the .38 Special.
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Re: .327 Federal magnum in a rifle?
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2010, 11:54:04 AM »
We already have the .357 Magnum & the .38 Special.

I agree, and that's the basis of my survival plan. Chances are much higher of finding .38 based ammo than .32 based ammo, at least today. I've got a little stockpile for my wife's SP101 in .32H&R, but there's probably me and another guy on this island that have any.

However, if I already had say a Handi/H&R/NEF/Rossi/Contender rifle in .30-30 right now (and I'd love to find a super 16 in 30-30 for this), I might order the MCACE chamber adapter which right now is for .32 H&R/S&W Long, but he might make a .327 version (which would cover all the rest). If I had a double shottie, I might order a 327 adapter for one barrel, and make it a poor man's drilling. I'm a fan of options and versatility. I've got some .32 wc ammo that'd be super quiet in a long barrel, with very little recoil, but probably stout enough for island pig ... at reasonable range with good placement.

All that said, I think Marlin should have already chambered a 94 in .327/.32H&R, and a 94 CB. Between that and Ruger's new offerings, it might lift the cartridge up in popularity and make it more common to where it could join the ranks of likely ammo found in an EOTWAWKI scenario.
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Re: .327 Federal magnum in a rifle?
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2010, 12:12:25 PM »
Marlin likely knows it will go the way of the .32H&R Magnum.
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Re: .327 Federal magnum in a rifle?
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2010, 12:16:43 PM »
  If I'm not mistaken, the 327 magnum looks (on paper at least) to be a lot like the 30 carbine with a rim.  Am I missing something?

  You could get a 30 carbine barrel for the Contender if you'd like a single shot, and I hear they made a few million semi autos chambered in that round ;)

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Re: .327 Federal magnum in a rifle?
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2010, 12:49:41 PM »
 ok ill bite.....i have tree rat hunted 4 years with a 357 max handi rifle.loaded with 38 round nose lead.....kills great and no noise...........but..........if the angle wasnt just right id take out a front leg going out.......only eat 3 legs instead of 4......built a 32 in the handy rifle wheh they brung out the 32 h and r brass.......had to throw away the loading book but i came out with a gun that will kill tree rats up to 60 yards and not ruin the 4 legs............it was 308 dia....shot lead bullets out of it...........it was stolen ten years ago.........got all guns back but that and a 10 ga,,,,,,,,still miss it .......been looking 4 another barrel 4 a few months now...also piced up a few 327 brass..............i cant shot my h r mags in anything but my old rifle.i can shot my 32 longs in my 32 revolver........not hr mag......im going to make my new one a 327.......327 loads hot...32 h r loads for small critters...and 32 longs 4 my revolver for 6 quick shots......i have others but the 32 does have its need.........i like it..........jb

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Re: .327 Federal magnum in a rifle?
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2010, 12:58:09 PM »
32 H&R mag, 327 federal, 30 carbine, 32-20, & light loads in the 30-30 are all very close in performance.  ;D  I would just buy a good lever in 32-20 and call it good.

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Re: .327 Federal magnum in a rifle?
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2010, 02:55:39 AM »
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We already have the .357 Magnum & the .38 Special.
  So!

.358 is not the end-all of calibers!
  The .38Special/.357Mag to me go together like ham and eggs, but that is still a medium bore round.  Personally when it comes to a wheelgun (in particular) or anything in .358,  I ALWAYS advise or advocate getting such a firearm in .357Mag - for max-versatility.

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I agree, and that's the basis of my survival plan. Chances are much higher of finding .38 based ammo than .32 based ammo, at least today. I've got a little stockpile for my wife's SP101 in .32H&R, but there's probably me and another guy on this island that have any.  (very true!)

However, if I already had say a Handi/H&R/NEF/Rossi/Contender rifle in .30-30 right now (and I'd love to find a super 16 in 30-30 for this), **I might order the MCACE chamber adapter which right now is for .32 H&R/S&W Long, but he might make a .327 version (which would cover all the rest). If I had a double shottie, I might order a 327 adapter for one barrel, and make it a poor man's drilling. I'm a fan of options and versatility. I've got some .32 wc ammo that'd be super quiet in a long barrel, with very little recoil, but probably stout enough for island pig ... at reasonable range with good placement.

All that said, I think Marlin should have already chambered a 94 in .327/.32H&R, and a 94 CB. Between that and Ruger's new offerings, it might lift the cartridge up in popularity and make it more common to where it could join the ranks of likely ammo found in an EOTWAWKI scenario.

** Egg-sellent suggestion!   ;D    And much of the reason I also advocate trying to develope smallish .308/.312 caliber rounds fpr survival and special uses in singleshot applications/firearms.  I believe the .30 cal cartridges are more versatile and easier to use in [more precise] applications than bigger cartridges - although ALL OF THEM have their usesWhich I do mean L-I-T-E-R-A-L-L-Y!

If limited to small game hunting and gathering I agree there might be little difference in potting a rabbit or squirrel or grouse with a .32 or ."38" cal-wadcutter rated at @1000fps.  But I can think of applications for all of the cartridges a survivalist/woodsman might purfekt!  Including .44Spec/.44Mag loadings, and even .452 applications if a person owned such other firearms.

However I got to thinking about T-Nelson's posts;  And while I want to replace my .30 Carb "applications" and McAce devices with ones in .357Mag, before I would have an H*R or Contender barrel or barrel-adapter reamed to the longer round if finally occurred to me that I need to thoroughly [also] test and "R&D" the shorter .32H*R rorund!  Esp with 86-100grn wadcutters!

I already have a .32-20 boolit mold for @115 grn pills, but when looking for current mold offerings, noticed that RCBS offers 3 or 4 wadcutter/semi-wadcutter designs - usually in .312 cal.  However many boolits can be sized to smaller calibers as well.

My quest for a reloadable small-game "survival" round stems from wanting a "reloadable" .22LR or .22WMR.

I won't say all .308 bullets and [lead] boolits are totally interchangeable with .32-20 or .32 cal applications (as I can't speak from experience -yet), but frequently "that" is the case according to what many shooters of those cartridges say!

A couple of points/trivia;  Blasting a squirrel or grouse in the body with a reloaded .38Sp or .32H&R/.327M may not leave much edible meat, but if such a loading is loaded to around .22LR velocities (@1000-1200fps) and aimed at the critters head, a much better outcome might be cooked and consumed that night!

Also it makes sense that a .38Spl wadcutter aimed at the cranium of a deer (if done correctly) would better harvest the venison, altho a .32 cal "application" could be "impressed" into such a role too, if the survivalist was careful and just as close to the critter if not closer.  (well inside of 50yds)

As for a Marlin levergun or similar firearm in the new .327Magnum, since those firearms have been chambered in the .32-20 (most of them), why not the newer more modern round?  Seems the straight-walled round with its stouter, thicker case might have fewer "problems" and quirks too.   ;)

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Re: .327 Federal magnum in a rifle?
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2010, 03:02:48 AM »
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32 H&R mag, 327 federal, 30 carbine, 32-20, & light loads in the 30-30 are all very close in performance.  ;D  I would just buy a good lever in 32-20 and call it good. 



That might be good for some, but not good enough for others!


Something else about .327M brass is that it can also be made into .32 S&W(Colt?) Short, Long, and .32H&R.  Not so with the .32-20.

Plus while I'm not knocking the venerable .32-20Win, fans and aficianados of that round will help ensure its existence for a long time!

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Re: .327 Federal magnum in a rifle?
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2010, 05:14:53 AM »
As mentioned it's an answer to a question that wasn't ask. 
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Re: .327 Federal magnum in a rifle?
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2010, 05:38:03 AM »
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As mentioned it's an answer to a question that wasn't ask. 



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