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Siler or L&R flinter... or?
« on: March 28, 2010, 12:05:42 PM »
I've got a GM .32 bbl coming for a flint build. Sorta narrowed it down to Siler/Chambers or L&R.
 Have a set trigger, but nothing else as yet. What can you tell me about reliable locks, waterproof locks, etc? What I've got to work with is a lathe, mill, and 10 thumbs.

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Re: Siler or L&R flinter... or?
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2010, 04:56:45 AM »
I used a Jim Chambers "delux Siler" on my latest build and it is a cut above the normal Siler lock from L&R.
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Re: Siler or L&R flinter... or?
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2010, 07:22:58 AM »
I'd get it from Jim, that way you know it was put together properly...
My large Siler is from the mid 70s and my small from the late 80s, both
work very well...

As far as waterproof flintlocks, that's a new one on me... :)

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Re: Siler or L&R flinter... or?
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2010, 06:44:52 PM »
L&R makes a Manton which is channeled a little more to let water run off. Another Manton is a V-pan-lock which comes in rough castings from The Rifle Shop and is designed to be even more "waterproof" as far as that can go I guess.
  How is the delux Siler different from the regular one?
  What about Durs Egg? would it look too beefy on a 13/16 AF bbl?
 

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Re: Siler or L&R flinter... or?
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2010, 06:31:55 AM »
Flintlocks were "state of the art" for some two hundred years and of course people were working to improve them the whole time. The late English locks, just before being replaced by percussion were naturally the most perfected designs. The Durs Egg, while not a really late lock, does incorporate some refinements such as the mainspring linked to the tumbler, a roller frizzen, and a semi-waterproof pan. If you think it may be too large then consider the "John Bailes" which is almost the same lock in a slightly smaller size.
Jim Chambers Deluxe Siler is the same plate as the standard L&R Siler but with a slightly taller cock and with more attention paid to fitting up and tuning the internals and balancing the spring pressures for fast, snappy action. It is just what it claims to be, a deluxe version of the old standby Siler for a few bucks more.
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Re: Siler or L&R flinter... or?
« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2010, 03:52:23 PM »
Both are good locks, even if you have to pay more, the Chamber's siler is hard to beat.  The Durs Egg is a excellent lock that I've used on one 50 cal rifle that I have.  The one thing I would suggest is the use of a smaller lock like the Beckys from RE Davis.  I haven't used it, but if you want a smaller sized rifle to match the smaller caliber, this could work in your favor.  Watch your layout on your stock.  There's not much room (usually) for the front lock bolt if you down size all aspects of the stock to keep it trim and proportioned.  If your making your own stock, it's easy to have the ramrod hole go slightly off course, had that happen to me making for less room for ramrod (had to notch the front lock bolt).
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Re: Siler or L&R flinter... or?
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2010, 04:32:09 PM »
Thanks for the input. This gives me something to go on. Probably be a long project, but I'd rather change my mind a few times now than any later.