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Re: Beast of LBL
« Reply #30 on: December 17, 2009, 07:25:13 PM »
I can tell you that the takes in the film are way too long to have been done by an amature film user.  When these were done the film was in 25 or 50, maximum would be 100 foot foot spools, at 24 or even 16 fps these takes would have burnt near a roll each or more, this is not what a hobby film person would do.  Add that to the fact that a wind up film camera will only shoot about 60 seconds of film on each wind and you get a professional job of some sort.  The film was probably done by a pro or simi-pro.  No one burns up that amount of film of someone riding around on a snow mobile.  The film to tape transfer also looks suspect to me, no gate in the frame, they do have the junk in the frame, (hair and dirt) but that is the dirtiest film I have seen in a long time, so I would think it is also made to look that way on purpose.  Larry
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Re: Beast of LBL
« Reply #31 on: December 18, 2009, 02:23:33 AM »
I can tell you that the takes in the film are way too long to have been done by an amature film user.  When these were done the film was in 25 or 50, maximum would be 100 foot foot spools, at 24 or even 16 fps these takes would have burnt near a roll each or more, this is not what a hobby film person would do.  Add that to the fact that a wind up film camera will only shoot about 60 seconds of film on each wind and you get a professional job of some sort.  The film was probably done by a pro or simi-pro.  No one burns up that amount of film of someone riding around on a snow mobile.  The film to tape transfer also looks suspect to me, no gate in the frame, they do have the junk in the frame, (hair and dirt) but that is the dirtiest film I have seen in a long time, so I would think it is also made to look that way on purpose.  Larry

 I don't know about that. I count six breaks in the snowmobile part over only ~1:30. When my friends and I filmed things we would often go through 2 or 3 reels on stupid stuff and splice them together.

 I don't see too much debris except at the start of the film and near breaks, which is where more would be expected due to loading film into the camera, copying, or when it was transferred to tape or digitized.
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Re: Beast of LBL
« Reply #32 on: December 18, 2009, 05:54:05 AM »
Hey guys,
I am a fairly new member, I don't post a lot, but I read a lot everyday. Anyway, things such as this have always interested me, and of course I have seen both films several times. The first film, especially the section with the animal itself, was interesting to say the least. I am not saying its real or that its some type of unknown animal, just that it peaked my interest. Now, the second film from the first time I saw it looked like bits from a really bad B grade movie. The scene with the dead body looks to be extremely fake. Everything is to neat, and cleaned up looking. Now I could be completely wrong, but if it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, well you know. Great reading anyway, keep up the interesting posts.

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Re: Beast of LBL
« Reply #33 on: February 21, 2010, 02:50:28 AM »
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Re: Beast of LBL
« Reply #34 on: March 18, 2010, 12:37:42 PM »
Well, back to the original post:  I've spent a fair amount of time in the LBL, over a long period of time, starting in the '70's.  That northern part of the LBL has always given me the creeps.  I've only camped up there a couple of times, the most recently being this past October.  But I've poked around in the northern part.  

I know that during the '80's something happened up there that the rangers and local LEO's wanted to keep a very tight lid on.  Suddenly there were roads closed with cables and dirt berms that used to always be open, lots more ranger patrols, rangers would stop you at night and encourage you to go elsewhere, you could occasionally see very bright lights reflecting up into the sky and could tell that they were some kind of super-bright spotlight being shined around, the rangers wouldn't tell you squat, camping areas were closed, and you'd see strangely marked or, more often, obviously un-marked gov't vehicles in the area.

In the 90's, I ventured back into that area and sneaked in behind some of the road barriers.  In one area I found abandoned concrete bunkers, like pill boxes, arranged so that they would have overlapping fields of fire.  Strange.  I've been back, the roads are still closed, but the bunkers are now torn apart.

Now, there is another thing that's up there that anyone that's willing to do some detective work can find:  the Vampire Hotel.  And there was a guy named Rod Ferrel that claimed to be a vampire that hung around up there with his coven of vampire/devil worshipers.  The bloodthirsty Mr. Ferrel is now serving life without parole or on death row somewhere for brutally murdering some folks.  Part of the Vampire Hotel is still there, and isn't too hard to find, but again, the rangers really don't want you poking around up there.  I can tell you that it's an ungodly creepy place, even in daylight.

There are parts of northern LBL that are so foreboding that my wife won't even get out of the car during the middle of the day in bright sunshine in some places.

When we were camped there this past October, we had wolves, yes WOLVES, not coyotes, come around our camp both evening trying to lure our German Shepherd out into the woods.  Four of 'em (that we could see) hung around for around 45 minutes conniving to get our dog.  One bitch wolf kept acting like she was in heat and was trying to lure our dog to her.

And have I seen any weird creatures there?  Yup, two of em, down in the Tennessee section of LBL.  Chasing deer across a field.  One about 7ft tall and the other around 8ft.  And they were NOT bears.
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Re: Beast of LBL
« Reply #35 on: April 08, 2010, 05:50:57 PM »
Monster Quest had the guy on that made the Gable film and he showed exactly how he did it. He still has all the props to show off with. Sorry guys but it's a hoax. Look at the still of the teeth. You can see the chain link fence on the sides of the mouth. Oh, and the woman victim is a man with long hair. In fact, the same guy that made the movie.

I heard about the Beast of LBL when I was stationed at Ft. Campbell in '81-'83. Heck of a story.
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Re: Beast of LBL
« Reply #36 on: April 10, 2010, 02:02:58 PM »
 Cool. Now we know.

 Check out this website and the comments by "Don Coyote" the gable film maker. He even explains how he did up the phony vintage police car.

http://www.ghosttheory.com/2010/03/25/monsterquest-gable-film-mystery-solved

 Gotta tip my hat to the guy. He did a good job.  :)
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Re: Beast of LBL
« Reply #37 on: April 13, 2010, 06:33:03 PM »
The only acceptable proof of anything cryptozoological
is a body, live or dead. anything else is just too easy to fake
today. Kind of sad that the only way to prove something
exists is to capture or kill it.
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