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Offline Bowhunter57

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« on: December 02, 2003, 01:15:07 AM »
I'm interested in the purchase of an In-Line muzzleloader....one of these 4 choices: T/C Encore, T/C Omega, Savage ML-10 or CVA Optima 209 Magnum.

This would be a ML use ONLY, no conversions. Accuracy and ease of cleaning are of concern. Which one would you purchase and why?

Your opinions and experience is appreciated.
Thank you, Bowhunter57
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« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2003, 03:41:31 AM »
I can only comment on the Encore and Omega. I have a couple of each and for a single use ML gun only I prefer the Omega. It gives me a little better velocity out of max loads and groups better at max loads than the Encore.
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« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2003, 03:49:10 AM »
I agree with rich. I have an encore, and it groups very well. I'm not one of the max load kinda guys, so a little less velocity doesn't matter to me. the omega is a great rifle too. Took the encore action, and removed the barrel interchangeability. A fine looking and shooting weapon. just stay away from the composite stock. The cva rifles are spanish, and not very well made. Love him or hate him, Randy Wakeman's 2 videos are a worthwhile investment, because they show you the good the bad and the ugly of most of the modern muzzleloaders out there. If you can afford it, go with the encore or the omega. A warning though; if you choose an encore, and you scope it , the scope needs to have lots of eye relief. trust me... I found out the hard way!!!

good luck!
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« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2003, 01:18:39 PM »
Unless you plan on swapping barrels with the Encore, the Omega has the best total package per dollar spent on the guns you listed.

If you're dead serious about spending $500 for a ml rifle, the A & H 420 and the Knight Disc Elite are also fine choices.
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« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2003, 01:27:59 AM »
I'd recommend the Savage 10ML-II. I own two of them and they are great rifles. Great accuracy and they work equally well with smokeless, Pyrodex and 777.

I can't legally hunt with smokeless in a frontstuffer here in New Mexico so I have a smokeless load that very nearly hits the same point of aim at a hundred yards as my Pyrodex hunting load. All year long I shoot smokeless for targets, plinking and varmints, then, with a little minor adjustment, switch to Pyrodex for MZ deer and elk season.

There is a message board dedicated to the Savage 10ML & 10ML-ii at:
http://www.dream-tools.com/tools/messages.mv?index+savagemuzzleloader

http://www.dream-tools.com/tools/messages.mv?index+savagemuzzleloader
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« Reply #5 on: December 03, 2003, 02:55:35 PM »
My vote is for the Omega. I don't like CVA, and I can't comment on the Encore because I don't have one. THe Omega is accurate and easy to clean.
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« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2003, 02:30:45 PM »
Encore.  For me the stock fits and the gun handles better than any other I own and that is a bunch.
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« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2003, 01:21:35 AM »
Thank you for the informative replies, gentlemen!

The T/C Omega sounds like the muzzleloader of choice, for me. Does anyone have an approximate "price tag" for the T/C Omega? I can't seem to find the MSRP on the internet, let alone the average gun shop prices.

Good hunting, Bowhunter57
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« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2003, 03:55:52 AM »
All in-lines have one thing or another going for them. One size does not fit all and your selection should be based on your expectations. I selected my rifle for reasons that others may not have. Currently I am a Knight fan. I did own a master hunter disc extreme but sold it. But some time later I helped a friend sight in a Knight "original" disc rifle and I was hooked. Here is why.

1. The price. I purchased a Knight original disc magnum blued with 26" barrel new in the box from a wholesale dealer on gunbroker for $254.00. If you can find one now Knight is offering a $50 rebate.

2. Fully ajustable trigger.

3. The original disc just drops in close bolt. Open bolt tilt rifle they fall out. No picking primers or caps off the nipple. Disc cost $6.50 hundred. To me worth the cost.

4. Take down. One screw remove bolt. Remove breech plug. One screw remove stock. One screw remove trigger assembly.  What's left is a straight metal action/barrel tube that is a snap to clean.

5. Just like the original disc better than the extreme. I have less blowback and primers are easier to press into the original disc. When the bolt rotates down it seals the original disc better. My master hunter extreme disc had a larger opening after the bolt was closed. Blowback would vent everywhere.
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« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2003, 08:59:41 AM »
If you didn't limit your selection, I would advise looking at the NEF Huntsman.  What I have seen posted about them folks really like them.

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