He's at it ..again

[ironglow]

  Just a few weeks ago the messiah president commissioned a new logo for our space defense agency, ironically containing a thinly disguised star & crescent.
   This week he called a world nuclear security summit where delegates conferred under his newly commissioned logo for the summit...do we see a trend ?

[ironglow]

Ummm...anyone notice the logo for the space agency of Iran ?

[ironglow]

  Then there is the "Obama Youth" program, which Free Republic says was started by the Black Panthers, although they have quietly eased this logo out and removed it from the web as well as they could...but by the second copy, you can see that someone else caught it also.

[MGMorden]

Take the tin foil hats off guys.  I don't think it's too much of a stretch to imagine that the logo for a SPACE program would have the moon and stars on it . . . .

[teamnelson]

As the program director for a national non-profit I worked with branding and marketing teams (Madison Ave. types) who specialize in icon imagery and brand recognition. Reuse of a similar theme in branding a product or idea is very powerful - and people don't even realize it. These logos here are not developed by Pat the intern. These are developed by professionals, who ask very specific questions, who have very clear communication strategies which are an extension of an agenda. That's not tinfoil hat stuff - its corporate branding. The question then is what do they want us to buy?

[MGMorden]

As the program director for a national non-profit I worked with branding and marketing teams (Madison Ave. types) who specialize in icon imagery and brand recognition. Reuse of a similar theme in branding a product or idea is very powerful - and people don't even realize it. These logos here are not developed by Pat the intern. These are developed by professionals, who ask very specific questions, who have very clear communication strategies which are an extension of an agenda. That's not tinfoil hat stuff - its corporate branding. The question then is what do they want us to buy?

That's kinda beside the point though.  If you look up into the night sky a huge percentage of the time you're going to be greeted by a giant crescent moon and countless stars.  The crescent form of the moon is simply a good way to solidify recognition of a shape as the moon.  If it's a full moon without going to a photograph (which doesn't look well on logos - solids are far more professional) then it's just a circle.  New moon is nothing, so you certainly can't represent that, and a half moon still is far less recognizable as "the moon" than the crescent.  To the lay-person, the moon and the stars ARE space from their perspective.  That those images would consistently show up in logos relating to space is about as common as cows showing up on advertising for milk.  There's no conspiracy needed. 

[teamnelson]

Not beside the point at all, if a highly paid professional creative team was brought in to develop those logos. And they were. There is always a communication strategy involved in the design of a logo, even if it uses common themes. That's the point isn't it? To appeal to what is known and recognizeable.

Do you not think the hammer and the sickle were common elements to the people? Do you not think the stars and stripes were chosen for their significance to average joe? There is not a single flag, emblem, or logo on the planet that did not choose easily recognizeable symbology to communicate a message.

So we're back to what is the communication strategy - what is the message? Why do we see such similarities between the logos? Why is there a recurrence of Obama's campaign symbology in the agency logos? Every aspect of that logo was vetted by a creative team, who are highly paid to evaluate how someone will respond to it, and they will be thinking like IG is right now - why the star and the crescent? Will the alienate the customer and do we care?And they will have answers ... so there are answers to those questions, whether you chose to discount them or not. So it may very well not be part of islamicization, but that doesn't mean there is no meaning.

[Sweetwater]

It for sure means something way beyond being cutesy!

[ironglow]

Take the tin foil hats off guys.  I don't think it's too much of a stretch to imagine that the logo for a SPACE program would have the moon and stars on it . . . .

  MGmorden;
  Perhaps we need not remove our tin foil hats nearly so much as you need to put your thinking cap on !
    Before Mohammed came along with his idea, the Arabic tribes were animists, worshipping all kinds of things in nature. Their chief god was the moon, called variously "illah" or "sin"...thought to be indicative of phases of the moon.. With the former term, one can see the transposing of the name and the latter speaks for itself. Some believe the moon symbol was used to help assist the animists to more easily accept the new religion.
   Muhammad was born in AD 570 or 571 (the year varies  with scholars) in or near the city of Mecca. Islamic tradition says when Muhammad was born a star appeared over the place of his birth..imagine that !  Not supposed to think historically, 570 years earlier and another birth scene.
 
  MG; here's a website to help with better understanding:  http://www.bible.ca/islam/islam-photos-moon-worship-archealolgy.htm

  Obviously, combining a symbol of a pagan god with the symbol of the new prophet, eases the transition considerably...

   ..A bit more study may be needed..

[skarke]

Hammer and sickle, guys.

[ironglow]

As the program director for a national non-profit I worked with branding and marketing teams (Madison Ave. types) who specialize in icon imagery and brand recognition. Reuse of a similar theme in branding a product or idea is very powerful - and people don't even realize it. These logos here are not developed by Pat the intern. These are developed by professionals, who ask very specific questions, who have very clear communication strategies which are an extension of an agenda. That's not tinfoil hat stuff - its corporate branding. The question then is what do they want us to buy?

  TeamNelson clearly demonstrates that he has a good grasp of marketing ! Logos are manipulated to move the individual in the direction the logo utilizer wants to lead them. Nothing illustrates this better than the situation in the trenches, where the brand marketing can spell life or death for multi billion dollar corporations. These corporations pay millions for psychological studies and testing so they can assure customer loyalty.
    Neither Coke nor Pepsi have ever suddenly changed their branding symbols. They updated them b y design, while still pulling their loyal customers along with their familiarity of the logo...sometimes blatant, sometimes in a very subtle manner.   Check out a very early Coke logo beside today's branding..  Is there any question in either case, what the product is ?

[gypsyman]

Considering this started out for a NASA emblem, didn't they have at one time a Gemini rocket flying thru the stars?? As long as it's for the space program, why not a spaceship? And, as far as the new design, I see the letter O, which is for a very egotistical person we happen to know that's running the country. Another way he's patting himself on the back. gypsyman

[LONGTOM]

Considering this started out for a NASA emblem, didn't they have at one time a Gemini rocket flying thru the stars?? As long as it's for the space program, why not a spaceship? And, as far as the new design, I see the letter O, which is for a very egotistical person we happen to know that's running the country. Another way he's patting himself on the back. gypsyman

I saw that "O" also along with the BIG RED SPEAR POINT hitting the "O" right in the center killing it. This red spear represents the people of this country who are fed up with his BS and are considered to be devils for questioning his agendas.
By placing the point of the spear in the center, to me it indicates the death of his agenda at the middle (center point of his possible 8 year term) indicating that he will not win a second term.
So is he also predicting his own downfall?
One can only hope!

Sounds good to me. 



LONGTOM

[slim rem 7]

im starting to see a commitment by the man to fix america the way he wants it to be ..
 this regardless of the peoples will. he s a dangerouse man..he s committed ,and don t quit the fight..
 ordinarily id admire these qualities.. but hitler had the same qualities ..so in his case its very dangerouse to america as the land of the free.at this time.. all we can do is vote..i dread the time when it comes time for
more drastic action..but my grand children will pay the price for it ..if we fail to stop him an his kind..
   know this ..he an others like him really believe they are right.. it will take real committment to stop them..
 gods will be done..we sure can t help but have angered our father ,by the things we ve condoned in this country ,,for way to long..the unborn children ,who have had life snatched from them ,before they ever got to live it.. well they may have just made him too angry with america..
  having said this ,have no doubt ,,this man does not pretend to know gods will pertaining to america..
 i just know he is ,he was before the beginning an will be everlasting.. i also know he loves all his children..
 but chastisement is sometimes necessary for any father on earth..how much more so for one,,who always knows whats necessary.. his will be done..god bless all.. this good day of the lord.. slim

[ironglow]

  So with all the thousands of symbols and geometric shapes available, how is it he seems to cling so firmly to the star & crescent shape ?
  It would seem with the many citizen's questioning his relationship wiuth Islam, he would stay as far from Islamic symbols as he possibly could.
  Some here try to defend his emblem choices  by claiming "coincidence" and "chance"..so to them I ask this question.. Do you suppose for one moment if George Bush had used the muted symbols shown below as logos for government programs..the "progressive" liberals and the ACLU types would have remained silent and simply "sucked it up" ?   Would YOU have not complained ?

[Elijah Gunn]

IG, TNell, et al:  The Logo was designed by TMP...Lindsay Wozniak,,,senior VP....why don't you contact her and ask her about the new logo-symbology...? Why it apes the Iranian space logo, BHO campaign logo, and the new Pepsi Logo, and saturn autos..?  Maybe they got a one logo fits all mentality..?

http://tmpgovernment.com/people.aspx

...TM7

Well, since we are heading for a one world govt. a "one logo mentality" would work quite nicely.