dougell, while the deer have over browsed the northern part of the range, the game and fish has done nothing to improve the game lands that are for game...they are more interested in growing timber to line their pockets at a later date...the areas I hunt in central Pa. are perfect deer cover with lots of browse on the old strip mines...as far as the insurance industry, while they may not have been present at the meetings, I am certain they had pressured people to vote their way...I am 63 and I know the one thing about insurance companies, they love collecting money, but will pull and trick they can to avoid paying out one cent...I have said this before..our local agent taught school for 15 years before going into insurance...he drove a 10 year old 2 wheel drive pickup...with dents all over...after being in insurance for 5 years or so, he had a new 4 wheel drive, snow machines, 4 wheels, in a few more years his house was paid off and he bought into a ranch for a personal hunting area...not bad...when I need to file a claim on damaged topper for my truck...he said its too old and not worth anything...BUT he had b een collecting insurance money on it all these years...some may believe the insurance industry wasn/t involved, but they may believe Mickey Mouse and Santa Clause are real also...