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A sign of the times?
« on: February 22, 2010, 07:09:34 AM »



Print ShareThisPHILADELPHIA —  A suburban Philadelphia school district accused of secretly switching on laptop computer webcams inside students' homes says it never used webcam images to monitor or discipline students and believes one of its administrators has been "unfairly portrayed and unjustly attacked."

The Lower Merion School District, in response to a suit filed by a student, has acknowledged that webcams were remotely activated 42 times in the past 14 months, but only to find missing, lost or stolen laptops — which the district noted would include "a loaner computer that, against regulations, might be taken off campus."

"Despite some reports to the contrary, be assured that the security-tracking software has been completely disabled," Superintendent Christopher W. McGinley said in a statement on the district's Web site late Friday. Officials vowed a comprehensive review that McGinley said should result in stronger privacy policies.

Harriton High School student Blake Robbins and his parents, Michael and Holly Robbins, filed a federal civil rights lawsuit Tuesday against the district, its board of directors and McGinley. They accused the school of turning on the webcam in his computer while it was inside their Penn Valley home, which they allege violated wiretap laws and his right to privacy.

The suit, which seeks class-action status, alleges that Harriton vice principal Lindy Matsko on Nov. 11 cited a laptop photo in telling Blake that the school thought he was engaging in improper behavior. He and his family have told reporters that an official mistook a piece of candy for a pill and thought he was selling drugs.

Neither the family nor their attorney, Mark Haltzman, returned calls this week seeking comment. A listed number for Matsko could not be found.

"We believe that the administrator at Harriton has been unfairly portrayed and unjustly attacked in connection with her attempts to be supportive of a student and his family," the statement on the Lower Merion School District site said. "The district never did and never would use such tactics as a basis for disciplinary action."

A district spokesman declined further comment on the statement Saturday.

Lower Merion, an affluent district in Philadelphia's suburbs, issues Apple laptops to all 2,300 students at its two high schools. Only two employees in the technology department, not administrators, were authorized to activate the cameras, which captured still images but not sound, officials said.

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"While certain rules for laptop use were spelled out ... there was no explicit notification that the laptop contained the security software," McGinley said. "This notice should have been given, and we regret that was not done."

The district's Web site said 42 activations of the system resulted in the recovery of 18 computers, not 28 as district spokesman Doug Young had said earlier. They reiterated that it was done only to locate lost, stolen or missing laptops.

"The district has not used the tracking feature or webcam for any other purpose or in any other manner whatsoever," the Web site said. The site also noted that there was nothing to prevent students from covering the webcam with tape.

McGinley said the district had hired former federal prosecutor Henry Hockeimer Jr. to review past practices and suggest improvements.

The FBI is looking into whether any federal wiretap or computer-intrusion laws were violated, according to an official who spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because the official was not authorized to discuss the investigation. Montgomery County District Attorney Risa Vetri Ferman has said she might also investigate.

Andy Derrow, father of a Harriton junior, said he does not believe the district was spying on students. He said he has two other sons who graduated from the school and had substantially benefited from the computer program.

"I don't think there was any ill intent here," he said "I think we all need to take a breath and wait and see what the facts are."

 

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Re: A sign of the times?
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2010, 07:14:04 AM »
Moreso just a sign of stupidity on the part of the administrators.  I've been following this story on Slashdot, and it's pretty much a given that the school admins have lost their job.  There's a very real chance that several of them will be facing child pornography charges based on the fact that they could and did capture images of students in their bedrooms and such (they claim otherwise in their response but in the same breath admit that a student was suspended for catching him engaged in "inappropriate activities" in his own bedroom - that means that they're pretty much lying about not recording the students at home).  If just one of those photos shows nudity they are jumping from hot water into hot grease.

Seriously though - I maintain a webcam on my computer simply for the purposes of talking with relatives over Skype, but I keep it pointed towards the ceiling until I'm ready to use it.  If it was built into a laptop that I normally used, I'd probably cover it with tape.  Even amongst well meaning admins there's always the possibility of your system becoming compromised by hackers, and I DON'T want to give them a virtual window into the inside of my home.

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Re: A sign of the times?
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2010, 07:21:45 AM »
This stinks , BIG BROTHER !
If ya can see it ya can hit it !

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Re: A sign of the times?
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2010, 08:02:14 AM »
I think the big problem here is, the school never notified the parents of the laptops capibilities. If they would have contacted the parents of any student that got a 'puter, and explained the who,what and why, there should have not been a problem. As is, even if there was no ill intent intended, it looks bad for the school and all involved. As should be. If this school system has done this before without any problems, then it is entirely posible that nothing bad was intended. However, if any teacher or administrator has overstepped their boundary and actually spied on a student, then they should be fired. gypsyman
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Re: A sign of the times?
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2010, 11:17:01 PM »
this kinda rminds me of a movie or something where as you watched tv.. it watched you..
 solution ..im always in the nude ..thatll teachem..if they willing to pay that price ..lettum look.. ;Dslim

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Re: A sign of the times?
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2010, 03:52:34 AM »
The whole concept is full of opportunity for some sicko to take advantage of.
Not to mention the invasion of privacy aspect.
Unfortunately this type of stuff happens all the time and goes unreported.
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Re: A sign of the times?
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2010, 04:03:22 AM »
Guess we are all on candid camera these days
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Re: A sign of the times?
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2010, 04:19:37 AM »
They used to call it child pornography when you took pictures of kids without thier parents permission.

So now the government can look at the when ever they want, even naked at airports.

Its sad when the government has to protect us from our own children



 

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Re: A sign of the times?
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2010, 05:30:14 AM »
Guess we are all on candid camera these days

NOT ME.... I do not own a web cam nor a microphone for any of my computers.... I do not do laptops cause they all have them built in now a days...

Google has been spying on people for well over 5 years now.... and I told you all about it the day they went public with it...5 years ago...


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Re: A sign of the times?
« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2010, 12:41:12 PM »
An update on the situation


PHILADELPHIA – A suburban school district secretly captured at least 56,000 webcam photographs and screen shots from laptops issued to high school students, its lawyer acknowledged Monday.

"It's clear there were students who were likely captured in their homes," said lawyer Henry Hockeimer, who represents the Lower Merion School District.

None of the images, captured by a tracking program to find missing computers, appeared to be salacious or inappropriate, he said. The district said it remotely activated the tracking software to find 80 missing laptops in the past two years.

The Philadelphia Inquirer first reported Monday on the large number of images recovered from school servers by forensic computer experts, who were hired after student Blake Robbins filed suit over the tracking practice.

Robbins still doesn't know why the district deployed the software tracking program on his computer, as he had not reported it lost or stolen, his lawyer said.

The FBI has opened a criminal investigation into possible wiretap violations by the district, and U.S. Sen. Arlen Specter, of Pennsylvania, has introduced a bill to include webcam surveillance under the federal wiretap statute.

The district photographed Robbins 400 times during a 15-day period last fall, sometimes as he slept in bed or was half-dressed, according to his lawyer, Mark Haltzman. Other times, the district captured screen shots of instant messages or video chats the Harriton High School sophomore had with friends, he said.

"Not only was Blake Robbins being spied upon, but every one of the people he was IM chatting with were spied upon," said Haltzman, whose lawsuit alleges wiretap and privacy violations. "They captured pictures of people that have nothing to do with Harriton. It could be his cousin from Connecticut."

About 38,000 of the images were taken over several months from six computers the school said were stolen from a locker room.

The tracking program took images every 15 minutes, usually capturing the webcam photo of the user and a screen shot at the same time. The program was sometimes turned on for weeks or months at a time, Hockeimer said.
Robbins was one of about 20 students who had not paid the $55 insurance fee required to take the laptops home but was the only one tracked, Haltzman said.

The depositions taken to date have provided contradictory testimony about the reasons for tracking Robbins' laptop. One of the two people authorized to activate the program, technology coordinator Carol Cafiero, invoked her Fifth Amendment right not to answer questions at the deposition, Haltzman said.

About 10 school officials had the right to request an activation, Hockeimer disclosed Monday.

The tracking program helped police identify a suspect not affiliated with the school in the locker room theft, Hockeimer said. The affluent Montgomery County district distributes the Macintosh notebook computers to all 2,300 students at its two high schools, Hockeimer said.

As part of the lawsuit, a federal judge this week is set to begin a confidential process of showing parents the images that were captured of their children.

The school district expects to release a written report on an internal investigation in the next few weeks, Hockeimer said. School board President David Ebby has pledged the report will contain "all the facts — good and bad."



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Re: A sign of the times?
« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2010, 03:44:21 AM »
 they don t have to worry about what they see. now what they don t see [an they don t]lest they got a camera in the woods.. might worry them..
 my gun is zeroed at 260 or so yrds..dang it,, i over shot a coyote yesterday..he was too close ,an i miss judged it..one heck of a surprised coyote though.. also very lucky..don t usually get close shots onum..slim
 ps for that one time,, the 30 30 would have been a better gun..its zeroed at the 100.i won t miss next time with my
long range gun though..everybody makes mistakes.. :)